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Supercharger - Fort Stockton, Texas
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TX_Drivetime
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You joined last January and this is your first post. That is some impressive lurking. You have to click the links to see the pictures because they are not uploaded and instead are linked to another website.
I'd heard that they were only needed when the electricity from the grid isn't "clean." They're used to clean up the spikes and valleys that shouldn't be there.
charliepmayer
Member
Yup, clicked on the links and it just sits there. I’m on an iPhone, I’ll try with a computer later, thanks for the help.
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
charliepmayer
Member
I forgot: for those who miss pics of survey flags, the Walmart site has has some new flags planted!
Should I post some pics?
Should I post some pics?
Power Pack = energy storage? I've seen the autotransformers on sites without it.
tmoz
S85D, Y LR, ex Prius PiP
Definitely!I forgot: for those who miss pics of survey flags, the Walmart site has has some new flags planted!
Should I post some pics?
I forgot: for those who miss pics of survey flags, the Walmart site has has some new flags planted!
Should I post some pics?
What is going on at Walmart? I wasn't aware of this.
charliepmayer
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GroundForces: Walmart folks told me there was to be a Supercharger installed there. Turned out it will be an Electrify America (VW) station. CHAdeMO and CCS only. Walmart folks didn't know the difference between Tesla and EA.
AZ Desert Driver
Rare combination
Do you suppose that the new pricing for supercharging (new cars no longer get lifetime free) means that the cost of electricity will be charged based on what each site costs? Transformers cost more, so the electricity will cost more? Each supercharger will look like a profit center [or at least not a loss center]?
We don't expect cellphone pricing to vary by cell tower used.
I think pricing will continue to be about overall electricity pricing, which is currently by state, but could theoretically become more find-grained over time.
The network costs will be spread, as they are with cellphone service.
ℬête Noire
Active Member
Important thing to keep in mind:
It's boom time, people that care are busy and probably most are in a happy state of denial anyway that anything will ever come of these crazy hippies and their EVs
It's the oil & gas industry. If you're charging your EV off the grid in TX that's between 30% and 40% provided by natural gas. It's coal, due to wind and to a lesser extent right now solar, that's dying out right now. It'll be a while before we start dropping NG as a percentage of the grid.
My wife works at a big name oil & gas service company, she's got no static and even some admiration as brave and forward thinking for showing up in an BEV (daily).
Oil's still going to come out of the ground, even after we stop burning any of it in the service of transportation. Oil business will hurt to some extent, the petro-chemical industry is more going to boom, as the prices for their feedstock soften. It's the fuel-centric refineries that are going to get hammered by EVs and will need to heavily re-invent, re-tool for new outputs or shutdown. The later is where you'll find some fear-rage is building, but those aren't in West Texas. Those are mostly on the Coast.
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reddy
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For anyone stopping by to get photos of the progress here, one of the key questions to ask is "Where are you going next ? " to see which SC is next in line.
TMC Bubba
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IIRC Elon said Superchargers will not be operated as profit centers — unlike some of the other EV players, I would add.
AZ Desert Driver
Rare combination
Not sure I agree- every gas station sets it price. Every utility sets its price. Every supercharger experiences its own cost based on where it gets it power and rent. Why would the price for filling up not vary by location? Not to make a profit, but to avoid loss.
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