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Supercharger - Las Vegas, NV (High Roller at LINQ)

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We really need someone to accurately count them and send a message to the developers.

There are 15 destination chargers. You can see them from the videos, and tell where they are from the satellite view visible in PlugShare. 11 spots on the west side and 1 top left are open access, and 3 along the top (north) are for the disabled permit parking spots. There appear to be 1 'normal' and 2 'disabled' spots that have no charger associated with them (overflow? or room for someone to move out of a charging spot to let someone else charge before they are done with their 'parking' ?) Hmm, maybe for valet to shuffle cars?

No need to send messages to developers. You can edit the location yourself as a PlugShare user.

Right, or add a new location, which is what I just did, just for you @bwilson4web !

PlugShare - Las Vegas LINQ High Roller Tesla Destination Chargers
 
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There are 15 destination chargers. You can see them from the videos, and tell where they are from the satellite view visible in PlugShare. 11 spots on the west side and 1 top left are open access, and 3 along the top (north) are for the disabled permit parking spots. There appear to be 1 'normal' and 2 'disabled' spots that have no charger associated with them (overflow? or room for someone to move out of a charging spot to let someone else charge before they are done with their 'parking' ?) Hmm, maybe for valet to shuffle cars?



Right, or add a new location, which is what I just did, just for you @bwilson4web !

PlugShare - Las Vegas LINQ High Roller Tesla Destination Chargers
WHY?!? This is not the PlugShare standard. They all belong in one pin location, just like all the other multi-standard stations! The app is smart enough to do the filtering if selected.
 
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WHY?!? This is not the PlugShare standard. They all belong in one pin location, just like all the other multi-standard stations! The app is smart enough to do the filtering if selected.

I did it for Bob guys ... I did it for Bob.

Right. It should all be one location.

Well anyways, the location was locked, you couldn't edit it. It's Plug*SHARE* ... I shared. It's like a wiki. Go fix it if you like :) If PlugShare wants to fix it by merging the info into one location they can do that.

In the mean time someone using the app can now see that there are 15 destination chargers and where they are. Before a few minutes ago they didn't exist in PlugShare.

Can someone point me to a combo Supercharger/Destination charger location in PlugShare so I can see how it looks?


ps. I put the pin closer to where the Destination chargers are. The existing pin was right where the Superchargers are. It's two separate areas of the same parking lot.
 
All these people complaining and reporting to developers ... it's plugshare... fix it yourself!

I just added 15 chargers to the supercharger one and updated the description and reported the other one as "inaccurate".

Why didn't the first 5 people to complain just fix it?
 
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Please amend the introduction to this article. The new V3 Station in Las Vegas is NOT at Caesars Palace. It is located behind the Flamingo and Linq casinos.
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Regarding Plugshare, superchargers are treated a bit differently from other types of plugs. Because the feed is synchronised direct from Tesla the destination chargers are usually not part of the same "pin".

An example of this in another location is here - both pins are on the same site
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I don't know if the destination charger data for the Linq SC location will be overwritten via a regular synchronisation from Tesla or not.. I guess we wait and see.

Also, some people have a habit of adding superchargers manually, and because they don't see a plug for "Supercharger" they add them as "Tesla destination charger" plugs. This makes the "filter by destination charger" option slightly less trustworthy, especially for newer sites.
 
I just thought of something to do with Tesla batteries at this location.... you know how our batteries will preheat (if needed) as you get close to a super charger? I have to wonder if the batteries at this site also know of your arrival and start drawing a little more juice from the grid to help average out the peaks? These batteries could get a head start on demand even before you arrive.
 
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These batteries could get a head start on demand even before you arrive.

Interesting concept. Intelligent routing lets the supercharger station know in advance who is navigating to the Supercharger location. Software in turn figures out how much to draw from the grid in addition to solar to hopefully bring the batteries up a bit in order to smooth out a peak when those cars plug in, further reducing demand charges.

Not sure this would work at a large Vegas or Kettleman location (where there's a lot of business/turnover), but as smaller chargers get solar and batteries this could help greatly.
 
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I just thought of something to do with Tesla batteries at this location.... you know how our batteries will preheat (if needed) as you get close to a super charger? I have to wonder if the batteries at this site also know of your arrival and start drawing a little more juice from the grid to help average out the peaks? These batteries could get a head start on demand even before you arrive.
The optimal operating temperature is only needed in high C-rate applications. A Model 3 LR charging at 240kW into a 80kWh battery is charging at a 3C rate. Powerpack batteries are rated for 2 hours or 4 hours. That means that they discharge at 0.5C to 0.25C. That rate of charge or discharge does not require that level of thermal management.
 
The optimal operating temperature is only needed in high C-rate applications. A Model 3 LR charging at 240kW into a 80kWh battery is charging at a 3C rate. Powerpack batteries are rated for 2 hours or 4 hours. That means that they discharge at 0.5C to 0.25C. That rate of charge or discharge does not require that level of thermal management.

I wasn't debating the charge rate of the battery on the car... I was suggesting that the supercharger could prepare for the arrival of vehicles by drawing more power from the grid as necessary.... after all, tesla knows who's nav'ing to which supercharger, the state of their battery and how much charge they will want.
 
I wasn't debating the charge rate of the battery on the car... I was suggesting that the supercharger could prepare for the arrival of vehicles by drawing more power from the grid as necessary.... after all, tesla knows who's nav'ing to which supercharger, the state of their battery and how much charge they will want.

Yeah, kind of like... Well, the Supercharger battery bank is half full, but 6 Model 3's are set to arrive in 40 minutes. So in order to avoid peak utility usage charges, we should fill the battery bank up in anticipation of their arrival.

Or to keep it even simpler, they might keep the battery "topped off" or close to it, whenever they can draw utility power without exceeding the upper limit of the peak draw. That would be simpler...

RT
 
Yeah, kind of like... Well, the Supercharger battery bank is half full, but 6 Model 3's are set to arrive in 40 minutes. So in order to avoid peak utility usage charges, we should fill the battery bank up in anticipation of their arrival.

Or to keep it even simpler, they might keep the battery "topped off" or close to it, whenever they can draw utility power without exceeding the upper limit of the peak draw. That would be simpler...

RT
I don't think the Peak Shaving algorithm for reducing utility demand charges cares much about the timing of incoming cars. It will make sure that the total demand has the shape of a Mesa over time, not a mountain top. If they really get slammed and don't want to allow a spike, they just throttle all the chargers a little bit. However, at some point you have to allow months with heavy holiday travel to have a higher max utility load so you don't adversely impact so many customers.

As I pointed out either here or the Santa Rosa, CA thread, the PowerPacks appear to have a relatively limited max power output compared to the theoretical capacity of the V3 Supercharger installation.
 
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