aherm, back to location speculation?
Curiously, a few sites still have the quarter still showing (Redmond OR and Vancouver WA as examples).
Starbucks has a deal with ChargePoint.
Federal funding requires DCFC to have 150kw charge posts with sharing only allowed over 150kw. 4 chargers minimum but can be mix of L3 and L2. You can have 350kw split between 2 posts as long as the available per post doesn’t drop below 150kw. That is available, not used. So even at the tail end of the charge curve using 20kw, the other 130kw still isn’t available to the other vehicle In this example, the max per vehicle would be 200kw.
Most Freeway Starbucks are focused on drive through patrons, not those coming and ordering, sitting, waiting, etc. Doesn’t mean it can’t happen, just that it’s not how Starbucks has built out their footprint and customer service objective.
Not mutually exclusive. Fast charging station of the future will be next to some convenience store if some kind
True.... but even a 5-10 charge while exchanging bucks at 'Bucks would be a convenience.
Well the 44 that just opened here and in the back of a Holiday Inn have with ZERO convenience next to them. A couple eateries that close at 9 on a Saturday, and 2 small gas stations that are 3 blocks away. It's a 3 football field walk (round trip) to get into the Hotel to even use the bathroom.
Certainly possible and would certainly make this nice, easier, convenient for PATRONS, but were I Starbucks, I might look at what MY corporate strategy is based on years of data, and decide whether participating in putting in ~ 250K worth of charging infrastructure might NOT be as appealing, as say looking at the current and COMING Supercharger locations (or also possibly EVGO larger footprint stations) and decide possibly whether or not to put in ANOTHER Starbucks at those locations. I’d also probably (actually, they most likely already have) look at the current SC/EVGO locations and see whether or not they already HAVE a Starbucks within about .4 miles (this is what most ppl can WALK in ~ 10 minutes each way) and possibly move something closer, or create some alternative for delivery, lots of options.
Supposedly REU (Redding Electric Utility) rates are cheap, but both Superchargers in Redding cost .48 cents a kilowatt! Why? I'd love to know that answer. I'm cheaper at my house in the area (PGE) in the night-time hours. .27cents per kilowatt
FWIW, the location of the supercharger sometimes translates to pricing according to local rates but not always. There are likely other factors. I've seen them price superchargers to drive demand to a particular location or to reduce demand at a particular location. There may also be some kind of cost sharing with the property owner in hopes of increased traffic to the location and sometimes there isn't. This price here at Redding is probably way marked up but I've also seen supercharger prices that are much less than the going residential rate even during off peak hours. Finally, the prices can be pretty high at superchargers in states with lower cost of electricity than California including Florida, Texas, and Nevada. The prices at some supercharger locations there can be just as high as California but the electric rates in those places are a bit lower than California.
Residential rates are usually different from commercial rates. Commercial rates factor in not only time of use, but also how fast the power is demanded. I assume Tesla takes these factors, and more, in coming up with their blended rate.
Are you using they type of power that 10 or so Superchargers use? I am more use manufacturing facilities that do things like welding and cutting metal or computer servers.
