Cool. We've opted in, but it's Tesla that decides, not us. One bad wreck on beta could be a major regulatory setback -- not to mention the people potentially affect by the wreck.
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Tesla’s FSD Beta 10.3 Coming This Friday 10-22-2021
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Haha, nope. I'm staying in and look forward to the beta. I wrote "safer", not "production release".
EVNow
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pro tip : Don’t mention the date in the title when you create a release specific thread.
everydaychris
Active Member
So hopefully Sunday now haha. I hope he just releases it to all 99's at once instead of a wave release
I doubt their servers can handle a release to everyone all at once. They will probably prioritize those with 10.2 first. I don't expect to get it for at least another week.
And this is in example of why -- for me personally -- I don't mind waiting a little longer for a cleaner version of the beta! Hahah.Driving in West Hollywood and North Hollywood with no traffic on 10.2 makes me never want to use it again after the amount of issues I had just trying to approach and turn at an intersection, I hope 10.3 does better
Yeah, yeah, I know others would be thrilled to have the experience mentioned by Acisplat.
The problem with this is FSD buyers were promised L5 autonomous driving way back in late 2016 when it was released. Tesla would be in a completely different situation if Elon promised L3 driving or limited ODD L4 driving.
With either of those they could have reached feature complete much sooner by greatly limiting the scope of it.
The other issue is they promised something they ultimately don't have any control over. It's not up to them to decide when their cars are ready for autonomous operation, but the regulatory bodies in the region the owner is in.
At some point Tesla will be forced to acknowledge that HW3 (and maybe HW4 as well) don't meet the requirements set forth for autonomous driving, and they will always be L2 systems.
It's my belief that Tesla always intended on using the regulatory get out of jail free card. How can they design something for regulations not even written at the time they released the HW?
They're going to pull that card, and its only a matter of when. They don't really need to right now, and they might not need to even for HW4. They don't need to pull the card as long as the upgrades are straight forwards (MCU Computer, AP Computer, Cameras, etc).
Odds are that by the time anything really changes the FSD vehicles will have switched hands so many times the new owner has no idea about the original promise.
HW3 will go out with a whimper and it won't be a massive fleetwide upgrade or owners getting refunded. Maybe just a few sprinkles of lawsuits where only the lawyers win.
Stayed late last night and checked this morning and afternoon… got no updates.
There will always be a "safer" version ahead. When will you know it us safe enough?
tmoz
S85D, Y LR, ex Prius PiP
Why not?
We're looking at over 800 software installs for different firmwares today, and that's just from people who have TeslaFi. Which is a tiny fraction of all Tesla owners. Their servers would have no issues
With FSD the hope is functionality will improve significantly while at the same time the human driver remains vigilant.
There is probably room for this in 10.2, 10.3, and probably 11 where overall safety increases. But, there will be a point where improvements will start to actually diminish safety as the average driver starts to subconsciously trust it.
It has to make it though that phase though to reach autonomous driving so its really unavoidable.
Only autonomous driving can truly offer increasing safety with increased functionality.
I personally am not concerned about safety (as that's my job), but functionality. My biggest concern about jumping on board before the general release is that the functionality isn't worth giving up largely phantom free AP driving (I have a 2018 Model 3 with Radar)
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