I drove it for 2 days, returned it and rented a model 3. Found the 3 much more spacious and altogether a fun car to drive.
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If they come out with cars with NACS connectors by June, I think they would be the first non-Tesla cars delivered with the connectors. That might help sales a little bit.
Just ran the comparison for the two models on EPA's site. The Wh/Mi is not as good as Tesla and the single motor is more efficient than the dual motor. The opposite of Tesla.
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I don't follow the last part. Tesla single motor motor Model 3 and Y are more efficient that AWD, but come with smaller packs.
OK, that's the opposite of the Model S (when the RWD version was an option), but the higher efficiency for the MY and M3 RWD probably has to do with the smaller pack. The S70D was more efficient than the S90D, but the S90D was more efficient than the S90. Now only 100 KWH and AWD is the only option for S and X with the Plaid as an upgrade with a larger rear motor (and a drop in efficiency).
I think Tesla is still better than the competition at squeezing as much energy as possible out of regen braking. That's why the dual motor versions of the S were more efficient than the single motor, even though they had the weight of the extra motor.
S RWD had the higher power induction motor. AWD used an induction and a more efficient PMSR motor which it used the majority of the time. The higher motor efficiency offset the extra weight.
When I sat in one, I definitely felt cramped. Primarily due to the center console design. Model 3 is much better. Not even close.
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From todays Toronto Star:
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From today’s Toronto Star (free link to full article below):
2024 Kia EV9
2024 Kia EV9
RobStark
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GM Confirms 2024 Chevy Equinox EV To Start At $34,995
General Motors has announced an updated price list for the Chevrolet Equinox EV, and shared details about its availability.
insideevs.com
Yes, now GM needs to mass produce them, get the software right and have them available for sale at dealerships.
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Owner Satisfaction by Brand. Brands are ranked on the average percentage of owners who said in CR member surveys that they would buy the same vehicle again. Nice to see an electric brand at the top.
www.consumerreports.org
Rank Brand
1 Rivian
2 Mini
3 BMW
4 Porsche
5 Tesla
6 Genesis
7 Lexus
8 Subaru
9 Ram
10 Honda
11 Chevrolet
12 Toyota
13 Hyundai
14 Acura
15 Ford
16 GMC
17 Mazda
18 Volvo
19 Lincoln
20 Buick
21 Kia
22 Cadillac
23 Chrysler
24 Mercedes-Benz
25 Audi
26 Jeep
27 Nissan
28 Volkswagen
29 Infiniti
Luxury car brand at the bottom of owner satisfaction? lol
Most and Least Loved Car Brands - Consumer Reports
Consumer Reports asked owners whether they’d buy their same car again if given the chance. Then we sorted responses by vehicle brand.
Rank Brand
1 Rivian
2 Mini
3 BMW
4 Porsche
5 Tesla
6 Genesis
7 Lexus
8 Subaru
9 Ram
10 Honda
11 Chevrolet
12 Toyota
13 Hyundai
14 Acura
15 Ford
16 GMC
17 Mazda
18 Volvo
19 Lincoln
20 Buick
21 Kia
22 Cadillac
23 Chrysler
24 Mercedes-Benz
25 Audi
26 Jeep
27 Nissan
28 Volkswagen
29 Infiniti
Luxury car brand at the bottom of owner satisfaction? lol
Owner Satisfaction by Brand. Brands are ranked on the average percentage of owners who said in CR member surveys that they would buy the same vehicle again. Nice to see an electric brand at the top.
Most and Least Loved Car Brands - Consumer Reports
Consumer Reports asked owners whether they’d buy their same car again if given the chance. Then we sorted responses by vehicle brand.
Rank Brand
1 Rivian
2 Mini
3 BMW
4 Porsche
5 Tesla
6 Genesis
7 Lexus
8 Subaru
9 Ram
10 Honda
11 Chevrolet
12 Toyota
13 Hyundai
14 Acura
15 Ford
16 GMC
17 Mazda
18 Volvo
19 Lincoln
20 Buick
21 Kia
22 Cadillac
23 Chrysler
24 Mercedes-Benz
25 Audi
26 Jeep
27 Nissan
28 Volkswagen
29 Infiniti
Luxury car brand at the bottom of owner satisfaction? lol
I've read good things about Rivian. About their only drawback today is the lack of NACS connector which will be corrected within a year.
The bottom 10 have a couple of nameplates from the same company: two from Volkswagen Group, two from Nissan, two from Chrysler/Stellantis, and two from GM. A number of luxury, or upscale brands in the bottom 10 too.
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Marques has love hate for Fisker Ocean. Likes the car, hates the software, because of missing features and very buggy. Reminds me of early Tesla.
RobStark
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While Tesla didn't manufacture its first 2450 cars Fisker has signed deals with other manufactures to manufacture their first 3 models. Fisker never plans to manufacture their cars. They plan to never own their own factory.
The vast majority of the engineering will also be done by others.
Fisker will be doing design and marketing.
Sales and service will be done by franchised auto dealers.
Fisker never plans to install their own charging network.
This is Fisker's "asset light" business model.
You create value by doing hard things not just easy things.
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Lol, "Worst car ever". Apparently Marques hasn't reviewed the Fisker Karma.
But in his defense, the Ocean does have a very serious safety flaw. Check out the size of that "PARK" font!
But in his defense, the Ocean does have a very serious safety flaw. Check out the size of that "PARK" font!
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Chevy Silverado And GMC Sierra Plug-In Hybrids Are Coming: Report
A new report claims General Motors is in a hurry to launch plug-in hybrid versions of the Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra.
www.motor1.com
Afeela is having a pop-up event at Westfield Century City beginning Feb 2 through Feb 26 and at Westfield Valley Fair beginning Feb 22 through Mar 18. Details & registration for the free events here.
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