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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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You are incorrect. Porsche (and with it other brands in the VW group) has sub-2.5s cars on the road right now.
But it's not just them. The GM Hummer EV and the Rivian trucks also claim 0-60 in the 3s range. And of course Lucid.
Yes, Tesla events are a bit, how should I say it, goofy. I have a feeling Elon is incapable of inciting in other people the same passion he feels for his products through words alone. But, would I take them over other manufacturers' event? Yes x1000. They feel real to me. Watching GM, Ford, and Lucid, I felt like I was sitting through a timeshare convention. I wouldn't mind a better production from Tesla that's for sure.
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Yes: I did indeed remember too late that the cold weather improvement claim also deserves a slot in Audie’s “plus” side. Your “interior” comments detail the “check” mark I gave. The “towing” comment…well, that encompasses both overall range as well as cold weather, mountainous range and so forth so, for me, no. “Around” 400 mile range still is significantly inferior to an average ICE vehicle of comparable size in terms of usefulness. During the pandemic hellathon, we were able to test the away-from-Interstate/Urban megalopolises corridors by exposing Gus to many parts of the western and Intermountain western states and National Parks in our P100D Model X…and the need to go way out of our ways to Supercharge - in 2020! - badly diminished the experience.
The SpC Network‘s buildout is, indeed, commendable in urban lower-48 but as another Early Adopter, you know as well as I that the initial goal for Tesla was to have this network enable REAL long-distance driving. That means the good parts of the continent…not the commuting corridors. I am very much aware that Tesla changed focus and I do fault them for that decision. And yes, since 2013 I have held up Alaska as the shibboleth by which Tesla either is or is not failing at its promise. Nine years of failing to deliver that makes this acceleration/speed focus as demonstrated last night bitter, indeed. I’m still pretty good at higher mathematics and I figure that I’m nine years older now than I was then. That hurts.
Re Elon's delivery.
I don't think he was under-prepared.
My take is that his pauses seemed to happen when he was waiting for the next slide to come up.
Once it appeared he knew exactly what he was going to say.
I don't think he was under-prepared.
My take is that his pauses seemed to happen when he was waiting for the next slide to come up.
Once it appeared he knew exactly what he was going to say.
It may not have been a stellar presentation, but the fact that the SP is down less than 1% means it was more successful than most presentations in the past!
Drop in the neighborhood of 5% following presentations used to be the norm, so this reaction is stellar!
Drop in the neighborhood of 5% following presentations used to be the norm, so this reaction is stellar!
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How do you know someone didn’t hand him that? Given how he reacts once he reads the slides, having that moment of memory refresh that he does, I’m just going to say that his brain is full all the time and racing at plaid speed all the time. There’s no room nor a quiet place to memorize a presentation like this.
I suspect the tech guys that put these events together fly by the seat of their pants just as Elon and everyone else at Tesla. The whole company is a moving target, it’s what makes them great and fallible all at the same time. A segment of the population can’t work or live in that manner. They don’t work at Tesla.
Incoming Zen; I discovered a long time ago that if I could understand a person’s motives and the why’s of their choices and decisions then I could more readily accept them for who they are and be significantly less affected; frustrated, angry, disappointed.
For instance I can totally understand your frugality as motivation for achieving a lifestyle that includes early retirement, thus forgiving the fact you’re not adding to Tesla’s bottom line - mostly.
That was simply a poorly designed test. Want a well designed test then look at the very recent Norwegian test. Simply put they lined up all the EVs in the test and took them on a pre-planned route going various speeds across various terrains and drove them from fully charged until they simply died and had to be be towed or mobile charged.
Ultimate EV range test declares Tesla Model 3, Ford Mach-E, as endurance kings
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Curious does anyone let alone CNBC ever mention other price targets from GLJ Research? Does GLJ Research even have price targets for other tickers?
Did anyone notice how much better Elon delivered his lines on SNL? Yeah the lines written by writers and presented to him on a teleprompter. Sure he was in the writing room and making suggestions, but ultimately the writers took the sand paper to the lines to smooth them over.
Krugerrand
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Good question. No idea. Guessing that it means units, not locations.
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So we didn't have a run up to it, and nothing yet on the upside, but reactions seem alright.
So we didn't have a run up to it, and nothing yet on the upside, but reactions seem alright.
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