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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Stagger buy Calls (for shares) on the way down ... +3 850 Jan 24 shares for another 100 shares from pigg(cc)y bank
cheers!!
+Wouldn't be surprised if ARKS's algos are kicking in and dumping shares to compensate for TDOC losses so that TSLA stays under 10%.
Algo's need an override feature.
Also could be money getting pulled out of ARK due to lack of confidence.
Catalyst.
.EM hasn't sold a single share news (He has 6 mths to plan out the purchase)
.Full Shanghai reopening
.GF Austin deliveries to customers kicks off
cheers!!
+Wouldn't be surprised if ARKS's algos are kicking in and dumping shares to compensate for TDOC losses so that TSLA stays under 10%.
Algo's need an override feature.
Also could be money getting pulled out of ARK due to lack of confidence.
Catalyst.
.EM hasn't sold a single share news (He has 6 mths to plan out the purchase)
.Full Shanghai reopening
.GF Austin deliveries to customers kicks off
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Maybe ARK is dumping TSLA to cover their TDOC losses?
Whole market is going red, but TSLA and F are down more than the rest of the auto segment. FAANG is doing well though!
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
So read about the Sabatier process, and how it will be NECESSARY for SpaceX to use renewable solar power on Mars to create rocket fuel using SUSTAINABLE energy. And that technology needs to be invented and tested at scale on Earth before it goes off-planet? V. helpful.
bkp_duke
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Maybe ARK is dumping TSLA to cover their TDOC losses?
Whole market is going red, but TSLA and F are down more than the rest of the auto segment.
Down 5% in first 20 min of trading. And still going. Getting ugly fast.
High volume, 6 mil shares in 20 min.
bkp_duke
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I was initially against this assumption, but I can think of nothing except Elon selling to finance his TWTR purchase, at this point.
TSLA is only a tech stock on down nasdaq days. On down auto days it's an auto stock.
Most of my watchlist is red, to me that's the "whole market". Guess I should have chosen my words more carefully....
Has to be Arkk dumping after TDOC being down 45% today
Guess this is market telling Elon F no on selling TSLA shares to buy TWTR (my assumption is he has not sold any)?
Or using it as collateral?
Drop TSLA SP to the point where he must use other sources?
Market saying auto recession coming?
I am confused.
Or using it as collateral?
Drop TSLA SP to the point where he must use other sources?
Market saying auto recession coming?
I am confused.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Understanding the depth of the resources the several opposing factions have at their disposal, it is no wonder how on low volume they are able to repeatedly hammer TSLA.
I just continue to ponder upon how these tactics in no way affect the fundamentals that support production and delivery, and, how this constant barrage, though disappointing in the short term to a shareholder, is only spitting into the wind for those players behind it.
In the big picture the entity offering high levels of creativity which bring forth never before seen products that impact the world in a positive way, seldom known before in history, will come out on top.
Heck, karma points alone ought to eventually result in their attempts being remembered as some of the largest failed bets the market has ever seen.
HODL
I just continue to ponder upon how these tactics in no way affect the fundamentals that support production and delivery, and, how this constant barrage, though disappointing in the short term to a shareholder, is only spitting into the wind for those players behind it.
In the big picture the entity offering high levels of creativity which bring forth never before seen products that impact the world in a positive way, seldom known before in history, will come out on top.
Heck, karma points alone ought to eventually result in their attempts being remembered as some of the largest failed bets the market has ever seen.
HODL
Speculating here, but if it turns out that it’s Elon selling, would there be a further sharp sell off if form 4 confirms this?
After all, the typical investor does not feel comfortable when the primary shareholder of a company is selling large stakes. Not to mention that they would potentially see weeks more of heavy selling.
Even some die hard TSLA fans might get the idea that if they sell earlier, they can buy back when SP drops further.
Holding for years will work because eventually Elon will run out of stock to sell or things to buy, but many Investors and funds will not be so patient If a multi quarter drop is caused by the the CEO.
After all, the typical investor does not feel comfortable when the primary shareholder of a company is selling large stakes. Not to mention that they would potentially see weeks more of heavy selling.
Even some die hard TSLA fans might get the idea that if they sell earlier, they can buy back when SP drops further.
Holding for years will work because eventually Elon will run out of stock to sell or things to buy, but many Investors and funds will not be so patient If a multi quarter drop is caused by the the CEO.
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Same here. I initially thought he wouldn't be selling any TSLA to fund his love for the other T company. Not only do I think this is most likely the case now, I hope it is. Not because I want him to have done that, simply as it's all I can wrap my head around at this point.
ZachF
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StealthP3D
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Ha! Even then one could not "be absolutely sure" given the disdain Elon has for the SEC. More like 99.99% sure. That said, did you see the stats posted here as to how often Elon's people wait until the last day to file a Form 4 in the last year? It's very low, 6%, if I recall.
At this point it would actually be better if he had sold. I don't think that's the case but I'm not sure why people get so worried about it. It does not reflect a fundamental change in value and thus is transitory in nature. Time heals all wounds.
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