Best source is Tesla, much better than some third party collecting data who know how, and with a lot of uncertainty due to BMS calibration, so reporting range displayed is a really bad metric to gauge degradation because it takes into account usage pattern
They just wanted a chart which had “64%” on it. That number means all the FUD may be correct, whereas 8% means tesla, and evs in general, are not having battery degradation enough to worry about. My 2015 egolf is bang on 9% and only 9% off as to any used car is exactly what all cars have always done.
We may all be exhausted by this issue. One bit of non-revisionist insight is the New York Times in 2018. It's been quoted before but many of us keep forgetting how we felt then:Excellent link- thank you for posting it here... I'd recommend everyone read it as it goes into a fair bit of detail on both history and present practice of the court- including pointing out 2 things debunking some recent claims-
First it points out the rules are reviewed/updated annually, so 2023 isn't some weird OMG they reviewed the rules after 200 years thing-- and it points out generally those reviews/updates are for clarity or modernization and typically are apolitical and quite moderate. The rules currently under consideration, it notes, are to increase clarity around M&A and just technical clarifications.
Second-as I already mentioned- it points out the Elon case (without saying Elon-just "significant stockholder") is not a new thing at all, not specific to this judge at all--It's been a Thing under the Entire Fairness doctrine for decades.... and both what the concern for a company with a "significant stockholder" and how to avoid running afoul of the rule have likewise been clear for decades-
That's not a new framework. It's not "activist". It's known and established law, and the basis for the courts decision in the Elon comp case.
Again you can certainly dispute specific aspects of the judgement in terms of how well or how poorly Tesla did the things needed to avoid falling under that rule (ie judgement of how independent the board really is--- or how informed the shareholder vote proxy statement was).... and Teslas lawyers are likely to do so on appeal... (and in at least some respects I think have entirely valid points to raise on such an appeal)
But pretending this is some CRAZY WILD WEST ACIVIST JUDGE IGNORING PAST RULINGS just ain't so, and nobody has provided a shred of evidence for such a claim.
The link also has a quite nice compare/contrast of DE vs TX that's worth reading too... Some good (officers, not just directors have a fiduciary duty in TX for example)...and some bad (Texas business courts will allow jury trials in some cases for example)...and some unknown (the court has basically no prior case law to go on vs generations of it in DE for example)
Well worth reading the whole thing.
All that said- sounds like some folks are getting sick of the topic here, so reminder this exists and might be a better place to take follow-ups:
Elon Compensation Package
I don’t think Elon would leave Tesla if this fails. He would be offered another compensation package. I think he’d also know that asking for compensation for past achievements will be a tall order. I hope it passes but I do have my doubts.teslamotorsclub.com
New Updates: How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?
We get a lot of questions from our community about electric car batteries. That is partly because the cost of battery replacement is so high (more on that later), but it is also due to limited information.www.recurrentauto.com
Some great info in this report:
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. Also love the new visualizations where you can see all the pedestrians and cars the system sees and brake lights and blinkers. Talking about blinkers, also like the new auto blinkers that turn of automagically after completing a turn or lane change! New trip progress bar is nice, too. Only the new regen bar is hardly visible any more, was better before.These graphs don’t make any sense. My 2 year old model Y that has 27,000 miles shows an EPA range of 329 (Out of 330 when new) when I charge it to 100%.New Updates: How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?
We get a lot of questions from our community about electric car batteries. That is partly because the cost of battery replacement is so high (more on that later), but it is also due to limited information.
Some great info in this report:
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I'm liking the update too. We now have speed camera detection built in to navigation in the UK, and something I'd not seen before is average speed camera detection where it autosums your average speed in real time while letting you know when the end of the average speed camera zone is so you know if you are staying below it. First time I've seen anything like it, but I haven't used 3rd party speed camera apps in the past.BTW got the spring update 2024.14.8 on my 2019 Model 3 yesterday and really happy with it, especially the wipers now work as they should
OK, maybe soNew Updates: How Long Do Electric Car Batteries Last?
We get a lot of questions from our community about electric car batteries. That is partly because the cost of battery replacement is so high (more on that later), but it is also due to limited information.
Some great info in this report:
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But... why is this "information" in the investments threadOK, maybe so
Maybe because... T-R-O-L-L
Almost every long-term TSLA investor is experiencing Fear Doubt and Uncertainty while many other stocks and indexes are hitting ATH. Any investor experiencing these feelings when their largest holding is down 58% is human, not some sort of cult of conspiracy funded by the shorts.
Interesting because I’ve seriously been contemplating selling everything lately. My net worth is getting uncomfortably low and the FUD is working on me. Not the first time of course. I’m pretty good at selling at the bottom.
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