And you didn't, so that's that. At least you were consistent in your voting. Its those who voted "yes" last time and "no" this time who have questionable morals. Like Ross Gerber.I know I wouldn't have voted for that.
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And you didn't, so that's that. At least you were consistent in your voting. Its those who voted "yes" last time and "no" this time who have questionable morals. Like Ross Gerber.I know I wouldn't have voted for that.
This X post sums it up pretty well for me. Should people want a different CEO? Heck no!
I see myself as a committed capitalist but an incentive worth more than many smaller countries' GDP? To someone who is the world's richest or second richest man and should already be satisfactorily incentivised by being the largest shareholder of Tesla? I know I wouldn't have voted for that.
I'm sure it is accounted for, especially in the dedicated robotaxi vehicles.one thing not being accounted for. When the homeless smartens up and orders a ride for $2 for the night and refuses to leave after the ride ends.
Or they get on and start stripping all the valuable material.
Let's not revise history. The short-term price movement threads have a rich history in this sub-forum since at least 2012 - but it looks like the first one you started was in 2016 when you took over as moderator from Robert Boston.I created it and its predecessor threads over ten years ago and have molded it to my thoughts of what should be included and in what ways conversation should proceed.
It seems you have done well for yourself and you are more wealthy than the majority of Earth's population. So, you don't need the income from the last six years of your career and we are going to need you to return it to your employer.I see myself as a committed capitalist but an incentive worth more than many smaller countries' GDP? To someone who is the world's richest or second richest man and should already be satisfactorily incentivised by being the largest shareholder of Tesla? I know I wouldn't have voted for that.
While these incidents are not the end of the world and is just another stepping stone towards autonomy, what caught my attention is the update was not done over the air, but at the Depot.Your regular helpful post on the dire threat to Tesla's FSD ambitions from the competition:
Imagine if FSD did this? It would be a breaking new special.![]()
Waymo issues software and mapping recall after robotaxi crashes into a telephone pole
It’s the Google spinoff’s second-ever recall.www.theverge.com
Meanwhile another $850million of GM's money thrown on the cruise bonfire:
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GM pays robotaxi subsidiary Cruise 850 million dollars and builds fewer e-cars
After an accident involving an autonomous cab triggered a crisis at Cruise, GM wants to help its robotaxi division back on its feet with a cash injection.www.heise.de
I'm not worried about FSD competition.
Cars return to depot nightly. OTA seems kinda pointless.L
While these incidents are not the end of the world and is just another stepping stone towards autonomy, what caught my attention is the update was not done over the air, but at the Depot.
Perhaps you could suggest how me in my dotage, or my descendants, then best should proceed when Mr Musk either is ensconced on Mars, or otherwise no longer is around. This will happen.Tesla without Musk would be another Apple without any innovation riding safely on mediocre. Eventually it'd be brought into non-existence by big oil and stupid ones who seem ignorant.
It'd be plagued with unions which, speaking mildly, don't really contribute much to production goals. Innovation would be red taped by meetings and managers with their MBAs who would do anything to justify their positions. Tesla's would get many buttons back to navigate through their user interface. Hell, we'd might even get transmissions and engine sounds once Musk is gone.
Perhaps you could suggest how me in my dotage, or my descendants, then best should proceed when Mr Musk either is ensconced on Mars, or otherwise no longer is around. This will happen.
The car will probably lock all the doors and windows, and navigate directly to the nearest police station.one thing not being accounted for. When the homeless smartens up and orders a ride for $2 for the night and refuses to leave after the ride ends.
Or they get on and start stripping all the valuable material.
Not sure how many homeless have active credit cards, smart phones, etc. but they are required for RT of any kind.I'm sure it is accounted for, especially in the dedicated robotaxi vehicles.
Waymo would have the same problem. Anyone know how they deal with it?
It was under Rob’t B that I began those earlier threads, yes. They were the reason he anointed me Mod and eventually turned the entire task to me.Let's not revise history. The short-term price movement threads have a rich history in this sub-forum since at least 2012 - but it looks like the first one you started was in 2016 when you took over as moderator from Robert Boston.
I think some people will put their personal Tesla's into the RT fleet, but I think its going to be very small percentage of Tesla owners, like less than 10% I'd say, far FAR less than ARK and most Tesla bulls, and even far less than Elon, think will happen.
My hunch is people simply won't want strangers in their cars like that. I know I don't, and neither does anyone else I talk to. But some will for certain, just a minority IMHO.
I only named two although there are at least another dozens who deserve accolades.Good post.....he doesn't need (or probably want) me to vouch for him, but add @Doggydogworld to this list. I've followed him for ~25 years on a variety of boards. This guy knows Tesla inside and out and calls out bears AND bulls when they spew nonsense. Someone to pay close attention to.
Maybe if I buy a new tesla and I'll send the old one into the fleet to work till it dies. But 10 year old tesla probably can't do robotaxi due to hardware limits.I think some people will put their personal Tesla's into the RT fleet, but I think its going to be very small percentage of Tesla owners, like less than 10% I'd say, far FAR less than ARK and most Tesla bulls, and even far less than Elon, think will happen.
My hunch is people simply won't want strangers in their cars like that. I know I don't, and neither does anyone else I talk to. But some will for certain, just a minority IMHO.
Yeah agreed on that end, I’ve always considered that a reality-based risk to the concept.I think some people will put their personal Tesla's into the RT fleet, but I think its going to be very small percentage of Tesla owners, like less than 10% I'd say, far FAR less than ARK and most Tesla bulls, and even far less than Elon, think will happen.
My hunch is people simply won't want strangers in their cars like that. I know I don't, and neither does anyone else I talk to. But some will for certain, just a minority IMHO.
Not to belabor the point but those threads are searchable and were clearly started by Robert Boston. Your first post in the 2013 thread wasn't until May 6.It was under Rob’t B that I began those earlier threads, yes. They were the reason he anointed me Mod and eventually turned the entire task to me.