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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
- Thread starter AudubonB
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I guess finally voting my last two accounts made all the difference.
That's completely lost on CalPers!
I wish Leo shorted or bought puts. GFY.
I'm very skeptical about Robotaxis and don't assign much value to it. As someone else mentioned earlier, I just don't see a lot of people wanting random people using their car.
What I do assign a lot of value to is if FSD can legally drive people w/o the driver being attentive. I think most people will still want their own cars, but would pay a monthly fee for a virtual chauffeur. If my own car can drive me after a night out with friends, or drive itself home after going to airport, then there's no need to take an Uber and is a lot more convenient.
I think another big driver for Tesla growth is energy. I could see energy alone being worth $1T in 5 years.
I'm very skeptical about Optimus too. I don't see the value in Optimus over a specially built robot that is optimized for a particular task. Maybe in 10-20 years Optimus could perform some tasks as well as humans, but now it is like a baby and shows promise, but has a lot more growing up to do.
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The Accountant
Active Member
Got the first two of my Quadfecta.
There is one item I could have added to make it a Quinfecta. In addition to the Comp Plan approval, we could get other good news from the Annual Meeting.
Musk will be in a good mood and may reveal info during the Q&A session like the time he mentioned that he was open to a buyback.
There is one item I could have added to make it a Quinfecta. In addition to the Comp Plan approval, we could get other good news from the Annual Meeting.
Musk will be in a good mood and may reveal info during the Q&A session like the time he mentioned that he was open to a buyback.
11th Hour Appeal to Audubon:
You either did not read my post exhorting people to vote yes on Elon's comp package or found it not to be persuasive.
I wish to make one last appeal to you in the wake of your disclosure that you believe you are amongst the top TSLA shareholders here at TMC and likely anywhere. So your vote carries enormous weight and literally could be the difference maker in this tight race.
By your own admission, Elon Musk has given you generational wealth. You simply would not be in that position if he had failed to deliver. Please reflect upon that.
I beseech you not to join the petty ranks of Ross Gerber, Koguan Lee and their ilk. Find it within yourself not to make this a referendum on Elon Musk. Find another way to do that. But for now, reward the man for what he has done for you and your descendants for generations to come by reaching nearly impossible goals in the face of overwhelming opposition, treachery and mind-blowing manufacturing obstacles. You simply would not be in the position you are today but for Elon Musk. He earned your votes. When you say no you end up siding with every evil industry that is hell bent on destroying this world from pure greed. Meanwhile Musk pours himself and risks nearly all to better humanity. He's not buying mega yachts or obscene mansions to wallow in his riches. He's putting it into a bright future for all of us!
Is he distracted? Maybe! But almost everything he is "distracted" by is part of a plan to make humanity better and allow the species to survive by making us multi-planetary. Every component of Musk Industries has this goal in mind. From Boring Co tunnels, Optimus, Neural Link, AI, EVs, solar, Starlink, SpaceX, applied materials research, batteries and (even!) X. And likely there's more innovation to come to which we are not privy at the moment.
Can he be maddening? Absolutely. Can he make mistakes? Certainly! But again, this vote is being twisted into a referendum on HIM, which is EXACTLY what the forces of evil you have railed against desire! And that is simply not true! It is purely a vote to determine that he earned that compensation package.
Please be a force for good and reconsider your vote.
Sincerely,
William Butler
You either did not read my post exhorting people to vote yes on Elon's comp package or found it not to be persuasive.
I wish to make one last appeal to you in the wake of your disclosure that you believe you are amongst the top TSLA shareholders here at TMC and likely anywhere. So your vote carries enormous weight and literally could be the difference maker in this tight race.
By your own admission, Elon Musk has given you generational wealth. You simply would not be in that position if he had failed to deliver. Please reflect upon that.
I beseech you not to join the petty ranks of Ross Gerber, Koguan Lee and their ilk. Find it within yourself not to make this a referendum on Elon Musk. Find another way to do that. But for now, reward the man for what he has done for you and your descendants for generations to come by reaching nearly impossible goals in the face of overwhelming opposition, treachery and mind-blowing manufacturing obstacles. You simply would not be in the position you are today but for Elon Musk. He earned your votes. When you say no you end up siding with every evil industry that is hell bent on destroying this world from pure greed. Meanwhile Musk pours himself and risks nearly all to better humanity. He's not buying mega yachts or obscene mansions to wallow in his riches. He's putting it into a bright future for all of us!
Is he distracted? Maybe! But almost everything he is "distracted" by is part of a plan to make humanity better and allow the species to survive by making us multi-planetary. Every component of Musk Industries has this goal in mind. From Boring Co tunnels, Optimus, Neural Link, AI, EVs, solar, Starlink, SpaceX, applied materials research, batteries and (even!) X. And likely there's more innovation to come to which we are not privy at the moment.
Can he be maddening? Absolutely. Can he make mistakes? Certainly! But again, this vote is being twisted into a referendum on HIM, which is EXACTLY what the forces of evil you have railed against desire! And that is simply not true! It is purely a vote to determine that he earned that compensation package.
Please be a force for good and reconsider your vote.
Sincerely,
William Butler
Drumheller
Active Member
At the price of TSLA closing price on the day that comp plan passed voting in 2018.IMHO, those who voted no should do the dignified thing and sell all of their TSLA shares.
(Not an investment advice)
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
For starters, it’s not easy for a homeless hobo to order a robotaxi with their iPhone.
Second, to have access to the service Tesla could require that riders have a linked bank account or credit card. And with that, background info. So if there’s damage Tesla has video evidence, full background information, and payment information.
That is great. We shareholders bailed him out this time. Hope, he learned his lesson and stops fff-ing around with his “ taking Tesla privets” tweet putting family members and buddies on the Board, the whole buying Twitter drama. Just do what you are good at Elon and stop with this sh..t!
Todd Burch
14-Year Member
Dragon Boat Festival (Chinese national holiday) was June 10–so Jun 8-10 was a 3 day weekend. Likely people were traveling that weekend vs picking up and registering cars. Last year’s Dragon Boat Festival was June 23, 2023. There was a similar drop in 2023 in week 24.
Not sure if this all perfectly lines up but it could be a contributing factor.
Phew, for a moment there I thought we were in trouble...
Anyway, here's the new deal:
Anyway, here's the new deal:
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
Thank you for the sincere post. Please do not make the mistake of conflating the pool of TMC participants with the universe of individual shareholders of TSLA. This group is a minuscule subset and the number of shareholders in that latter group whose holdings dwarf mine will be substantial, indeed. Thank you!
Thomas Edison
Active Member
Sorry if this has already been covered, but those lawyers in opposition to the comp package still get paid now that it’s been reapproved? I know the pay amount is in dispute. But winning that case and getting paid is irrelevant from this vote, right?
Elon didn't give him generational wealth. I don't know his story, but he had to make lots of money to be able to invest (Elon didn't make it for him) and he had to manage his invested money. Elon didn't invest for him
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