Anyone have the numbers for short-haul vs long-haul mileage? I understand that first generation Tesla Semi will be practical only for short hauls. Still expect that to be huge savings of cost and pollution.
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Anyone have the numbers for short-haul vs long-haul mileage? I understand that first generation Tesla Semi will be practical only for short hauls. Still expect that to be huge savings of cost and pollution.
I think @captkerosene 's suggestion was to focus on selling robotaxi-capable cars to customers, which would not stop cash flow.
I agree with that suggestion, but I would include Tesla Semi and Truck in the robotaxi category. As @StarFoxisDown! said, Tesla can charge extra for autonomous use of Semi, and some ride-hailers will prefer robo-Truck because it's cool looking or works better for trips to Home Depot, etc.
Roadster 3 may be lower priority, but will not be a big consumer of batteries because its market is small.
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No, $220 isn’t coming. There’s just no reason for it to drop. Amazing delivery numbers, simply amazing. Musk lost credibility and gained it back ten-fold
StealthP3D
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I think production and delivery numbers were good enough to create some decent action next week once people have had time to consider how strong those numbers really were. Keep in mind, the recent lows were caused by the fake narrative that demand was dying out and the record numbers have shown just how wrong that narrative was.
The next one to fall is that Tesla is selling dollar bills for $0.90. At this kind of production/delivery numbers, Tesla is funding its expansion with the current sales.
I just thought the narration sounded like Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes; she was known to use a childlike fake voice. While I loved the Consumer reports expose', IMHO the video lacked credibility.
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I haven't seen anything from an industry person. I found costs for rail, and costs for long haul trucking that included fuel, insurance, driver etc. Estimated that insurance and fuel could drop maybe 50%, driver costs would be eliminated, maintenance cut by 50% etc. I don't know if long or short will see better cost savings.
I've been thinking about robotaxies and whether I would want to keep a car for my own use. At my age, early 70's, I would use the robotaxies for my daily local needs mostly to avoid driving in traffic and dealing with parking. I always thought I keep a car like our MS for longer trips. Now I'm thinking the robotaxies could also be robo-rentals. Do you think that if I needed the car for a few days for a several hundred mile trip, would that option would be available? Would I pay daily use fee if I wanted to keep the car for local use for a few days at our destination? Would I need to return the car to the same city where I got it? How do you anticipate this might work? Thank you for you thoughts.
I'm hoping the pick-up plan includes a future van that can be configured as a delivery vehicle, work truck and passenger van, and maybe also a 2nd larger SUV.
StealthP3D
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Only because racetracks don't have Superchargers (yet).
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Maybe not even then. There's still a lot of negative sentiment that has to be overcome.
Even if Q2 earnings turn out to be solid, it will be written off as a one time event or the best it will ever be due to the perpetually forthcoming demand drop off. We need a repeat in Q3 to make them seriously question their reality.
Ok, now I’m confused. From what I saw you cited a couple reports of cracked roof glass in response to a suggestion an eventual “Model 2” would have a glass roof for safety reasons, with the suggestion that it wouldn’t work because of quality issues. The reply was pointing out that you can find “quality issues” around any aspect of any car by reading around on a public forum devoted to that car.
That link is dead (though it shows up in the Electrek search)
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Not sure how much more they can reduce over the most recent reduction? I am working through a proposal now with a small system (4kW) at a price (for panels-only) at $13.5k USD.
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How many 75kWh robotaxis can they make using the battery from one Semi ?
Lets say ~10. Can a Semi make for Tesla ~$1M per year, since a robotaxi can make ~$100k ?
ps : Tesla says Semi will save $200k in fuel. Definitely the driver is not getting paid $800k per year
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Yah. They may not have reduced a second time, hence the missing article.
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Joking aside - when do we see the first high power connected racetracks? Or can this be retrofitted to existing racetracks with enough solar panels and power packs?
While there is no definitive amount, short haul trucking distances typically cover a 150-mile radius. Long haul trucking services typically start at 250 miles and above
At a minimum they will build the Tesla Semi for their own use, they have a lot of freight transportation needs. The 2020 Roadster is needed to give ICE cars the smack-down they deserve. And for both of them the money to design them has already been spent. The Roadster is going to be a very low volume car so it shouldn't really impact other production.
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