Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Tslynk67]

 

[T@oo]

!!

 

[sparcs]

too busy reading Karen's recap and just caught $400.... wooohoooooooooo

 

[EinSV]

Do we REALLY believe he has clients? I mean, people who give this guy their own money for investment purposes, like getting back more than they put in? Other than Mom and Dad? I'm genuinely curious, so if anyone has this info, please share! I realise there's a sucker born every minute, but still...

The only client I am aware of who has been publicly identified is David Rocker, one of the top short-selling hedge fund managers (retired), who was also separately short Tesla (there may be others -- I don't follow this lunatic closely).

So if you're already short Tesla, and an experienced hedge fund manager, why on earth would you pay management fees to Spiegel:

One interesting factoid about Spiegel is that David Rocker, a famous short hedge fund manager, has said that he both shorted Tesla on his own and also has invested in Spiegel's fund. Elon Musk Versus the Haters

While Rocker is "retired" and no longer runs a hedge fund, he is certainly capable of calling his broker and shorting Tesla, which he has in fact done.

So why "invest" in Stanphyl and pay management fees (usually very high for hedge funds) except as a way to funnel cash to Spiegel via management fees to pay for his Twitter ravings, occasional presentation at events like the Robin Hood conference, etc.

I wonder what percentage of Spiegel's micro-fund is from people affiliated with hedge funds who are short Tesla or ICE interests who want Tesla to fail and are "investing" in Stanphyl to support Spiegel's FUD campaign.

PS There is a separate thread on Spiegel if you're interested:

Stanphyl Capital and Mark Spiegel

 

[Todd Burch]

It's really cute how they still try doing their mandatory morning dip thingies. Really cute.

In other news, we are now at 1/10 my current sell order... one more ten bagger and I'm cashin' out!

 

[M3Rider]

Where's the shower?

Nearby gym or marina.

 

[EVMeister]

Next stop $420?

 

[defc0n]

Where is the next major resistance? 400 or 420?

Might check out the trading thread, but I'd actually put money on $420 over $400.

 

[Kuhz]

400 baby!

 

[phantasms]

I'm picking up 1 share when it hits $420.

....legalization secured....

 

[KarenRei]

VW ID.3 soll noch "massive Softwareprobleme" haben - ecomento.de

Software for the ID.3 massively delayed.

 

[ZachF]

FO HUNDO!!

Told you guys it was hitting fo hundo this week.

 

[lascavarian]

Jack Rickard lays it down once more (slowly, as always) | 11 hrs ago

Interesting prognostication at about 1:13.

On another topic, Cramer just stated on CNBC that he saw the light on Tesla about 6 weeks ago.

 

[ZeApelido]

So, $400 tomorrow?

Answer is YES

 

[mongo]

VW ID.3 soll noch "massive Softwareprobleme" haben - ecomento.de

Software for the ID.3 massively delayed.

Ah, the Boeing approach.

According to information from Manager Magazin , the ID.3 will continue to be built for months without a complete software architecture. The wagons would then be parked in specially rented parking lots, according to company circles. In spring, service teams with mobile computer stations should install new software for the first 10,000 ID.3.

 

[jbcarioca]

I'll go ahead and start prepping

Look for a crowd of us when that happens!

 

[MP3Mike]

VW ID.3 soll noch "massive Softwareprobleme" haben - ecomento.de

Software for the ID.3 massively delayed.

According to Manager Magazine, the ID.3 will be built for months without a full software architecture. The cars would then be parked in specially rented parking lots, according to company sources. In the spring, service teams with mobile computer stations were to add new software to the first 10,000 ID.3.

A second wave is planned for mid-May, with a total of more than 20,000 ID.3 to be reworked, according to Manager Magazin. Only then could the new electric car be installed as planned – and has long been common at US industry leader Tesla – via "over-the-air" updates.

I guess we found those parking lots where you put cars you can't sell that the shorts had been talking so much about...

When is spring in Germany? So they are only going to make 10k cars in 4-5 months, and they are going to park them and let them sit? I wonder what that will do to the battery... It is like they are trying to replicate the lots that they have all the dieselgate cars parked in all over the US.

 

[Unpilot]

Ah, the Boeing approach.

So no over the air update....or maybe later after they get the crap...I mean software working?

 

[mongo]

So no over the air update....or maybe later after they get the crap...I mean software working?

It reads like the OTA software is part of what doesn't work.

 

[RFernatt]

Tesla announced OTA performance upgrades. GM announced:

GM recalls 814K vehicles to fix brake, battery problems

General Motors is recalling more than 814,000 pickup trucks and cars in the U.S. to fix problems with electronic brake controls and battery cables.