Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[AudubonB]

Marco beat me by four minutes!!!!

The reason this is momentous enough to merit a post (2 posts!) in this thread is that a record nineteen SpCs along that middle stretch of the Trans-Canada opened today. That represents a distance of about 1750 kms.

On edit: twenty! Upsala Ontario showed up later in the day.

 

[RobStark]

This guy can't wait two years.

 

[MC3OZ]

IMO the high share price has been caused by Superchargers in Kazakhstan and Iceland.....
We need another Supercharger in Iceland to get to $420.

 

[defc0n]

IMO the high share price has been caused by Superchargers in Kazakhstan and Iceland.....
We need another Supercharger in Iceland to get to $420.

all the Icelanders going bananas over the cybertruck

 

[JustMe]

all the Icelanders going bananas over the cybertruck

Frozen bananas, specifically

 

[PlaidCPA]

Hi

If you had cash to deploy at a Tesla which option would you time? Shares? Options? If options what expiry and strike?

I am trying to make a plan for 2020 and since Tesla is at all time high its hard to pick a strategy.

Thanks

 

[M3Rider]

Hi

If you had cash to deploy at a Tesla which option would you time? Shares? Options? If options what expiry and strike?

I am trying to make a plan for 2020 and since Tesla is at all time high its hard to pick a strategy.

Thanks

Shares would be the simplest / less risk.

Nobody is going to advice you on options as that is high risk and should be personal decision, so you don't feel in the future like someone else is responsible for your trouble.

As @FrankSG noted above, premiums for options are currently high and you have to have a lot of conviction to believe that SP will go much higher very soon to beat those premiums. Nobody will guarantee something like this.

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Wait til something horrendous happens in the macro world and buy shares @ $340 or lower.

 

[capster]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

 

[FrankSG]

Must be disappointing that
1/22 790c were selling for $19 today

Just a couple of weeks ago @SpaceCash jumped on 1/22 640c and they were like $22 then.

Can't grab a bunch for a buck anymore like some of those 1/21 600+s were going for.

When the Jan'22 options just came out, even the $400s were trading around $25. Shortly after there was a dip in SP from $240 to $215, and there were a couple of Jan'22 $400s that sold for $16.x.

 

[AudubonB]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:
View attachment 490842

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

I'll take a gander at Tc's decay pattern later, but here's an idea. If the pertechnetate can be restricted to coating the vehicle's exterior, it is not at all beyond the realm of likelihood that the steel sheet would perfectly shield its occupants. I'm not saying I would be garaging the CT in my livingroom, however. Anyway, the word maven in me loves the idea of Tc on a Ct.

 

[JustMe]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:
View attachment 490842

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

That’s an interesting find. I wouldn’t have thought Tc would have any industrial applications. I think it’s a bit of a stretch though just from the cost/benefit side. But I really don’t know tbh.

Tc did have an important historical role in astrophysics, however. It was detected spectroscopically in the atmosphere of red giant stars. Since red giants are much older than the longest-lived Tc isotope, this amounted to proof that heavy elements are made in red giants.

 

[Tyler34]

Hi

If you had cash to deploy at a Tesla which option would you time? Shares? Options? If options what expiry and strike?

I am trying to make a plan for 2020 and since Tesla is at all time high its hard to pick a strategy.

Thanks

Personally, for every $20k spare capital I have I would sell a Jan 2022 put at around 250 to pay for the Jan 2022 call I would buy around 500.
Not advice

 

[FrankSG]

Hi

If you had cash to deploy at a Tesla which option would you time? Shares? Options? If options what expiry and strike?

I am trying to make a plan for 2020 and since Tesla is at all time high its hard to pick a strategy.

Thanks

Hard to give specific advice, because nobody knows your life, investment goals, income, risk tolerance, etc, etc. You have to decide for yourself.

With that being said, all time highs are generally not a good time to buy call options. Premiums are extremely steep right now, and you have to believe stock will go MUCH higher for it to be a good idea to buy call options. If you think SP is going $800+ by early 2022, or $600+ by early 2021, by all means buy some call options, but risk/reward on them is mediocre right now imo.

If I had cash available, I would either buy shares, or sell cash covered puts and then hold the shares if they get assigned to me. You can always sell some of those shares to buy call options if SP dips back to $350 or something.

 

[Steve m]

Just to be clear: do $420 celebrations trigger on $420 intraday, or $420 close?

I vote 'intraday'.

Why both of course and every time the sp crosses 420. As this song explains why...

 

[AudubonB]

Beyond edit: according to that infallible source, Wikipedia, the most common isotope, Tc-99, is a weak beta emitter which radiation is stopped by laboratory glassware.


And with that, we're veering off topic. Gentle, all you weekend warriors.

 

[ggr]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:
View attachment 490842

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

I just took it to mean that there's so little of it in nature, there are no applications for it... but you just blew that theory up.

 

[Silent Ludicrosy]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:
View attachment 490842

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

Since it’s abbreviated TC, I figured this was a reference to TeslaCharts (Twitter TSLAQ leader) becoming irrelevant.

edit: similar to this earlier tweet, which could be directed at Wallstcynic or Montanaskeptic.

 

[Steve m]

BTW, anybody make anything from Musk's twitter reference to Technetium:
View attachment 490842

The WikiPedia entry (Technetium - Wikipedia) says: "It is a very rare example of a molecular metal oxide..."
and "When steel is immersed in water, adding a small concentration (55 ppm) of potassium pertechnetate(VII) to the water protects the steel from corrosion, even if the temperature is raised to 250 °C (523 K).[88] For this reason, pertechnetate has been used as an anodic corrosion inhibitor for steel, although technetium's radioactivity poses problems that limit this application to self-contained systems."

Maybe Tesla or SpaceX found a way around or an application where they can live with the radioactivity?

What is its half life?

 

[Silent Ludicrosy]

What is its half life?

211,000 years. 211,000 deliveries in Q4?