-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
- Thread starter AudubonB
- Start date
California too.
My ex got tested yesterday, negative, which is good I think. We had kids so whatever one gets the other invariably will.
Don't worry, I'm sure he can fix that.
Ya know, I read that article on their "proprietary Ultium batteries" and all I could find was they were in a different format/shape, and hoping for no cobalt to reduce costs (which wasn't that a claim already made by Tesla and in the works?)Lol, I read GM is going to build EVs for Honda:
GM to build EVs for Honda | 1 day ago
"Honda to customize GM EV platform, use GM's recently unveiled battery technology; GM to build Honda vehicles. Detroit, Michigan – General Motors (GM) and Honda will jointly develop two electric vehicles (EVs) for Honda, based on GM's flexible global EV platform powered by proprietary Ultium batteries."
Cheers!
In essence, GM is creating a battery Brand Name based upon their R&D goals, and marketing it like it's the Eveready Bunny. This can work in generating hype (b/c who really understands how much energy is in those AA batteries, or what's a Watt-Hr), but I think it will always boil down to cost and range for the consumer at point of sale, then features. I guess she needed to respond with something at GM, and a cloak of secrecy (for the next decade maybe) around battery technology was a logical response. In theory, solve battery - solve sales, so it's believable for the mass market. I bet they come up with a new metric for confusing the consumer (just like the audio business did with amplifier specs). Maybe something like battery density (b/c of new packs).
Or thay may take that odea pf supplying skateboards to other OEMs. I wish them luck
Animals on the move at GF4
Umzugstag für zehntausende Ameisen
Google translated extracts fromof the article:
As a start-up aid, Tost and his colleague from Natur + Text GmbH tip another kilo of sugar to the new quarter to attract the several 10,000 forest ants.
However, the experts also suspect lizards and snakes in specially fenced areas on the Tesla site. They are also protected and must be relocated. But they have to be caught first. Jens Frayer from Natur + Text explains how this should work: "To make our work easier, we have built reptile sheets that warm up quickly. Reptiles like to use these areas to sunbathe or warm up."
In December, 400 bats' nest caves were found during the first inspection. These have clogged the nature experts so that the animals do not nest for clearing. There was still one last pine tree on the site because three bats were sleeping in it. Today they searched for them with a mirror and an endoscope - of which nothing is visible today, as the nature experts have determined.
And to round this post off - a short video by Youtube user Tobias Lindh from earlier today:
Umzugstag für zehntausende Ameisen
Google translated extracts fromof the article:
As a start-up aid, Tost and his colleague from Natur + Text GmbH tip another kilo of sugar to the new quarter to attract the several 10,000 forest ants.
However, the experts also suspect lizards and snakes in specially fenced areas on the Tesla site. They are also protected and must be relocated. But they have to be caught first. Jens Frayer from Natur + Text explains how this should work: "To make our work easier, we have built reptile sheets that warm up quickly. Reptiles like to use these areas to sunbathe or warm up."
In December, 400 bats' nest caves were found during the first inspection. These have clogged the nature experts so that the animals do not nest for clearing. There was still one last pine tree on the site because three bats were sleeping in it. Today they searched for them with a mirror and an endoscope - of which nothing is visible today, as the nature experts have determined.
Touching a gasoline pump and its credit card terminal could expose one to the coronavirus. Perhaps Tesla/Elon could pump up demand by getting out the word that charging an electric car in one's home garage avoids the danger. 
It would be nice if Tesla made cars that actually got their supposed range. There are any number of threads on this subject. The class action suit will be a fudsters dream. Check current thread in Model S driving.The latest Raven+ Model S (March 2020) is rated EPA: 390 mi (630 km) NEDC: 443 mi (713 km).
The MIC LR Model 3, (if Bloomberg's report is accurate) will not match even match what the range of the current Model S (which has +10% more NEDC rated range)
The Model S is the flagship, and will always continue its march toward perfection. Its what they do, and how they're made.
Never had any problem with getting the range on the S I just traded in. Had it for seven years, 130K miles. Actually, I switched to Ideal miles because that was closer to reality. If you drive like Gilles Villeneuve, you're not going to get EPA numbers.
The only difference between a Tesla and an ICE car is that the Tesla actually tells you how much lead is in your foot. You'll never know in an ICE car unless you keep a log.
The Ultium battery chemistry is NCU811, Nickel, Cobalt, Unobtainium.
Mo City
Active Member
Would be nice if ICE cars got their supposed range, but you conveniently overlook that.
larmor
Active Member
My model X at 58k miles has a greater 90% range than when i got it-- does the class action go both ways?
As others have noted this is based on NEDC the European standard which significantly inflates range compared to EPA numbers.
"So, U.S. BEV/PHEV drivers can convert NEDC range estimate to approximate EPA range estimates by dividing the NEDC value by 1.43 with an 11% error.
Here's How To Calculate Conflicting EV Range Test Cycles: EPA, WLTP, NEDC
JusRelax
Active Member
Yes it does. Please send payment of 10 TSLA shares to [email protected].
Note: please don't actually send anything to that email address. It's not my actual email address and I'd feel bad if whoever owns it received more spam due to me posting his email address on a forum.
I can confirm cheetah mode is in the new update for the Raven Model X Performance. Just got the 2020.12.5 update last night, can’t wait to use it.
The major indices ended up red today, but TSLA gained 5,66%. Yesterday many longs were crying manipulation. Is today shorties turn to cry foul play?
Can’t we just conclude that the stock price eventually finds its rightful place, despite of all the strings being pulled?
Can’t we just conclude that the stock price eventually finds its rightful place, despite of all the strings being pulled?
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
In addition to annoying me and costing me money, TSLA being held down Friday gave the macros a couple days to plummet.
Can't we just have no obvious manipulation?
That's a fair point @Right_Said_Fred . OTOH, days when manipulations look like they happened, such as Friday and yesterday, suggest that TSLA shares are being offered for sale at a manipulator's discount. Sooner or later the market will run with that discount, which fits into your theory.
Another theory about the past two days of TSLA trading is that some big dog fund was unloading TSLA shares. It took two days for the unload to be completed, and today, without that selling, TSLA recovered.
I'm not solidly set on one explanation vs. the other, but as you know I hold a PhD in TSLA short-seller conspiracy theories, so I often opt for the first explanation.
I’m not saying there is no manipulation on a daily basis, especially around expiry. But as Papafox says, the stock price eventually corrects and finds the place it deserves. It can be frustrating (and costly) for short term players, but long term hodlers probably do not suffer from these manipulations.
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
