Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Singuy]

Second time most of the market goes up 5%, we go down 3%.
I remember some were saying in January the market had finally understood what is Tesla is all about. Clearly that is not the case. I find this almost more depressing that the SP at the moment.

Now we know how much S&P inclusion is worth, about 400 bucks.

 

[lafrisbee]

There has to be a balance. I don't know if anyone knows the app Nextdoor. Its basically neighborhood app you can chat with neighbors and surrounding businesses.

Anyway as of yesterday since the SF lockdown went in I have seen a lot of posts from people who worked in bars / restaurants / cafes posting on the app desperately looking for other work to sustain themselves and pay their rent.

It's very sad - you can't shut down the economy and put thousands of ppl out of work indefinitely. If you offered UBI - maybe but we are nowhere near that.

I stated such a position yesterday and was downvoted for it. I do not see how a government can legally stop a person from doing their work unless they compensate them. And when a local/city government has that mindset I believe any other business looking for a site would not consider that area.

 

[GOVA]

Second time most of the market goes up 5%, we go down 3%.
I remember some were saying in January the market had finally understood what is Tesla is all about. Clearly that is not the case. I find this almost more depressing that the SP at the moment.

It ain't about market understanding. It has always been about corrupt system that gets used to its full potential to kill Tlsa by all means. It is visible very much during times like this.

 

[Sean Wagner]

Musk also said they haven’t had any reports of c19 and workers can stay home if they feel ill or uncomfortable with situation.

“Alameda County has declared Tesla an “essential business” that is allowed to remain in operation, according to a county spokesman.”

Tesla Declared 'Essential Business' to Keep Factory Running; Model Y Deliveries Begin

The way to keep Fremont running is crystal clear: test everyone, repeat.

Aggressive testing helps Italian town cut new coronavirus cases to zero
Experiment in Vò underscores WHO’s message to ‘test, test, test’
Donato Paolo Mancini and Clive Cookson in London 4 HOURS AGO
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“In the UK, there are a whole lot of infections that are completely ignored,” Prof Crisanti told the Financial Times. “We were able to contain the outbreak here because we identified and eliminated the ‘submerged’ infections and isolated them,” he said of the Vò approach. “That is what makes the difference.”
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The first testing round, carried out on the town’s entire population in late February, found 3 per cent of the population infected, though half of the carriers had no symptoms. After isolating all those infected, the second testing round about 10 days later showed the infection rate had dropped to 0.3 per cent.

Importantly, however, this second round identified at least six individuals who had the virus but no symptoms, meaning they could be quarantined. “If they hadn’t been identified, the infection would have resumed,” explained Prof Crisanti.
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And just to reiterate, Molbiol in Berlin was producing 150'000 tests a day last week, albeit sans an additionally necessary enzyme.
At a cost of 2 Euros 50 cents per.

So there.

 

[KSilver2000]

I stated such a position yesterday and was downvoted for it. I do not see how a government can legally stop a person from doing their work unless they compensate them. And when a local/city government has that mindset I believe any other business looking for a site would not consider that area.

Let’s say that person is allowed to go on as usual with life and goes back to work, then gets sick from the community. If this person is one of the unlucky 20% to require hospitalization, besides even getting other people possibly sick (since the R0>2 right now), the overall expenditure will be A LOT more than just the lost wage.

 

[Pras]

Added a few more today. Never in the last few months thought I could buy below 420 again but hey, why refuse when you get a gift!

 

[jhm]

That is beautifully illustrated by

 

[lafrisbee]

Let’s say that person is allowed to go on as usual with life and goes back to work, then gets sick from the community. If this person is one of the unlucky 20% to require hospitalization, besides even getting other people possibly sick (since the R0>2 right now), the overall expenditure will be A LOT more than just the lost wage.

Agreed. So then everyone should never do any work. And we should all get paid! BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE!

 

[jhm]

Scientists say 380 trillion viruses live in a human body.
Bullish or bearish ?

Which one needs more cowbell?

 

[KSilver2000]

The way to keep Fremont running is crystal clear: test everyone, repeat.

Aggressive testing helps Italian town cut new coronavirus cases to zero

Just testing does not solve everything. Testing just shows whether an individual shows a viral load at that particular time the test was conducted. And a negative test is not a vaccine.

You need to be able to quarantine the positives and isolate all other sick people during testing. You don’t want to keep on testing just everyone every time one person shows symptoms.

Tesla Fremont factory’s attendance policy also needs a change. As it stands, it makes it hard for workers to not miss work for any reason. When a person is sick and can’t come to work, it requires prior notice or else they get docked a point. And any sick time off uses PTO days.

 

[exLeaf]

It ain't about market understanding. It has always been about corrupt system that gets used to its full potential to kill Tlsa by all means. It is visible very much during times like this.

Can you explain who is trying to kill TSLA I thought we have free market and good things sooner or latter will be on the top. To me market went to high and needed correction.

 

[KSilver2000]

Agreed. So then everyone should never do any work. And we should all get paid! BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE!

Stop exaggerating like a child.

 

[NicoV]

Belgium is in lockdown, everybody to stay at home, no contact with other families allowed. Going to work is still allowed. All companies have to obey social distancing and will be closed otherwise.

I interpret this that Zeebrugge transport is still operational, but not sure if deliveries can continue in Belgium.

 

[Cherry Wine]

So long, hammer candle.

 

[Sean Wagner]

Just testing does not solve everything.

Clearly so. But it's evidently an essential part of any solution.

You don’t want to keep on testing just everyone every time one person shows symptoms.

Testing absolutely everyone is the strategy successfully implemented in the little Italian town - especially important since that's the only way to discover carriers with no symptoms. As per Prof. Crisanti's quote above.

 

[Fred42]

UAW calls for two-week shutdown of Big 3 auto plants

So I expect Tesla will drop.

I think that's excellent. They have a choice, some will stay home which minimizes the spread. The others get to pay their bills.

It's not a real choice for white collar employees. If the boss says 'you can stay home if you want to, but I'll be at my desk', people understand they better be at work.

 

[M|S|W]

So long, hammer candle.

There is still hope for nice close...

 

[Nocturnal]

It's not a real choice for white collar employees. If the boss says 'you can stay home if you want to, but I'll be at my desk', people understand they better be at work.

Is that the norm? Most office workers I know have been told to stay at home.

 

[SunCatcher]

I feel I know what kind of renovations they are doing...

Cheers!

This explains a lot of things, as well as who's behind it.

 

[ggr]

I stated such a position yesterday and was downvoted for it. I do not see how a government can legally stop a person from doing their work unless they compensate them. And when a local/city government has that mindset I believe any other business looking for a site would not consider that area.

Probably because you are simply wrong.
Coronavirus prompts officials to deploy rarely used quarantine powers