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Don't think I have the stomach to add more $700's this week, but an order for $690's at $4.20 feels right to me. Lets see if we dip/erode a bit further then recover Tues/Wed.
I get the feeling there is always an effort to shake the weak through stop losses, then drive up to next level. So I'm also looking forward to midweek before Fri as usual.
 
I get the feeling there is always an effort to shake the weak through stop losses, then drive up to next level. So I'm also looking forward to midweek before Fri as usual.

You may be right, but keep in mind that the market will be closed on Friday for Christmas, and early closing on Thursday when options expire.
 
I noticed when this was posted the other day, that TWTR was red the day after inclusion, before climbing 20%+ over the next 5 days. I have no idea what TSLA will do this week, but the inclusion spike is not necessarily over just because we are red today.

Major difference is that TWTR did not have 60% run up prior to SP500 inclusion
 
My respect for Gov't isn't so great lately, so I'm with you there. Let Capitalism run this naturally.

We could make a field charger vehicle, go where nobody has power and charge 99 cents/kWh. Ship it there if needed. See you at the next mobile charging stop? (Also sells beef jerky... it's an Az thing.) The Tribe could make out here too (EV charging while shopping for local jewelry). Very remote land but along key routes. Next US Interior Secretary will be Native American. (I'm not native myself, just surrounded by casinos in all directions - good for concerts is all IMO).
NASA's Commercial Crew and Cargo programs demonstrate the new government-think on how to get new capabilities:
1) Tell ‘em what you want and when you want it (not how to do it)
2) Evaluate proposals. If they look good, throw some money at a few contenders
3) Let them work for a while, downselect to the best based on performance, throw more money at them
4) Let multiple winners proceed through development and operations
5) Eventually, government's role is over and the market selects final winners

I think something similar could be done with charging networks. It breaks the chicken-and-egg of initial demand and avoids a "National Charging System" (the worst of all approaches).
 
As an amateur chart analyst, I'm thinking a close at 664.95 today

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...also, I pulled that one outta my ***.... I'm just bored after the fireworks of the past weeks.... prolly going to close somewhere else
 

  • There shouldn't be too many investors left looking to divest near-term. I think just about everybody who wanted to do so, got the chance to do so at $695.”

In Europe we never got to see that price. The speed of light wasn’t quick enough,perhaps. The good news is, we probably have an ATH here, but unfortunately I can’t trim my excessive margin with that Friday US ATH.
 
Why on earth do they continue to let this guy to be on?

I mean, his bear point of view is just so a nothing burger, a rehash of other points found anywhere, with no real unique analysis.

At least get a bear that has done some original homework.
CNBC is pay to play. Oh, you didn't know you have to pay for access? So he's on because someone is paying for him to be on. He's probably funded by Thanos or some other short.
 
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Tesla price target raised to $788 from $516 at JMP Securities

JMP Securities analyst Joseph Osha raised the firm's price target on Tesla (TSLA) to $788 from $516 as he raised his 2025 unit delivery target for the company to 3.05M from 2.5M previously given that he now thinks total battery electric vehicle shipments in 2025 could make up 15.7% of global vehicle sales, which is up from his prior 14% assumption. The analyst, who keeps an Outperform rating on Tesla shares, compares the company to "other category-killer manufacturers" like Apple (AAPL) and Nvidia (NVDA). Osha estimates Tesla should be able to control about 45% of the addressable BEV market, excluding about 70% of China's EV sales, which would be down from 54% currently, he noted.

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Tesla price target raised to $788 from $516 at JMP Securities TSLA - The Fly

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An option skew like that means money. There are option strategies for this where you cannot lose money.

Tesla had a period like this as well and it taught some ppl some hard lessons.
Option markets are generally efficient, and there are generally very few can't lose strategies that are available. I don't think QS offers one at the moment, though there was an opportunity with SCTY and TSLA some here managed to capitalize on.

These bargains are seemingly available because you can't short QS yet for any reasonable price. Happened with NKLA too as soon as it was listed as borrow was not available.

To make it real, I can offer an example. You can right now get synthetic long exposure to QS by buying a call and selling a put at ~73 for January expiry. Go further out you can get exposure for cheaper. This is equivalent to holding stock. But you can't lock in this profit because you can't short QS (at 88 as I write this) with a reasonable borrow fee.

Another variant of this is it might be tempting to sell a call to short stock, which a buddy did with NKLA. He thought it was easy. The very next day, the call was exercised, and the broker closed his short position as there was no borrow available.
 
I don't really need to read about what ants think about being in an ant farm. The proof is still firmly there. From the orchestrated 31 day announcement to inclusion so all the shares would be in the right piles, to the $695/share making the buttload of $700 calls expire worthless.
We are all just ants in an ant farm.
And I am not complaining. We ants have round little tummies due to a steady diet of sweet crumby crumb crumbs from the Big Boys S&P 500 Picnic.
What was that in a month? from $408 to $666 or so? 63%? Life is Good.
 
The framing that TSLA dropped 5% today is a bit dishonest IMO. Sure we technically closed at $695 but I really see it as $677 because that was where the day settled. So we are effectively only down about half that.

Schwab had some options so messed up....all weekend these showed as $393 price, which obv leads to a "reported" drop of $90+ today, and a huge red number on my account for the day.....depressing. But tomorrow will look much better.

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