JRP3
Hyperactive Member
The big difference between those and EV of course is refueling. Doesn't really matter if your range is cut in half when fueling stations are everywhere and it only takes 5 minutes. EV's aren't there yet.
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JRP3
Hyperactive Member
So you're completely unaware of adapters?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Meh. I still don’t like it.
Maybe charge double rates for out of network (Not a Tesla) cars and then offer a scaling discount based on usage tiers for folks on a subscription plan.
Maybe charge double rates for out of network (Not a Tesla) cars and then offer a scaling discount based on usage tiers for folks on a subscription plan.
No the world had not already decided the DC charging standard, the main ones currently in use:
- CHAdeMO: Worldwide (But on it's way out.)
- CCS Type 1: North America and Japan
- GB/T: China
- CCS Type 2: Pretty much the rest of the world.
- MCS: Worldwide high-power DC charging standard for large vehicles like Semis, Ships, Planes, etc. (Not in final revision yet.)
But the NACS name doesn't even mention the US... It is intended to replace CCS1, which is mostly used in North America. So the NACS name is designed to say exactly what it is supposed to.
To be honest, if North America had chosen CCS2 instead of CCS1 things would probably be different. It still isn't a great design but it is better than CCS1.
master of coin probably has some ideas already. Just what magnitude of increased utilization would there be? Doesn't ford only make like 10% of Teslas fleet size in NA?
Yes the young kids pretty much without exception still love Tesla.
Besides the fact that they tend to be more interested in new technologies, it's also because they're a little bit too young to be affected by the politics of the whole stupid thing..
Must have missed the "most" part.
bkp_duke
Well-Known Member
Shock, Fred was wrong. Most of those people in China Tesla showrooms were there to actually buy, not protest.
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
Probably even some of the BYD employees.
StapleGun
Member
Same for me. I had just assumed the red was permanently burned into my monitor after the last 4 months.
By the politics of the whole stupid thing, I believe you’re not referring to this century long dependency on oil, killing our planet without regard, and fighting wars over those resources. Because my 10 year old is very much aware of the climate crisis and related issues (whether or not he knows they’re political issues per se; I know not).
Without Tesla we’d all still be stuck waiting for the OEM’s to make compelling EV’s or we’d be buying Chinese cars.
Must have missed Tesla's mission statement, too.
I hope this is still relevant enough as a potential future product or application of the Semi, but our friend Dave Lee posted some AI examples. Most are "shut up and take my money". I'd love a fully EV RV. Probably just have Tesla sell the Semi and have a third party deal with the BS but still. Most RVs now take gas/diesel, propane, and still wind up plugging into the grid.Have you seen some of the artist’s impressions of a possible Semi-based RV? One such:
Before you laugh, I just went to the Prevost website and they have a 2011 model listed at $925,000 (!). Though absurdly rich for our tastes - and finances - there clearly is a market for some such things out there. It seems inevitable that if and when the Semi is available to the market at large, someone will step up and go down this road.
UkNorthampton
TSLA - 12+ startups in 1
CCS2 of course as used in EU... that does mean all the CCS1 connectors need to be changed in North America though. Oh, perhaps using the smaller NACS might be better in that case....
I think the world will settle on 3 - Chinese, CCS2 for Europe & TBC for North America. Rest of World picks whichever they fancy depending on historical ties/geography & where they import used cars from. You might find that some Chinese OEMs add ports for CCS1 & NAC to the same car for North American-sold cars. Once you're past the the ports, wiring can be the same.
Has premium connectivity for M/Y been just 30 days for a while? ( + More units sold, atleast means more $ from services like connectivity and Super charger n/w, and maybe FSD as well) ..
My old M3 had lifetime, but traded it in for a MX which has 1 year free.
My old M3 had lifetime, but traded it in for a MX which has 1 year free.
ThisStockGood
Still cruising my Model S 70 2015
But who will challenge Tesla? Let's say Electrify America adds NACS plugs to their network. Will EA suddenly become as reliable and ubiquitous as Tesla?So you missed the part about Tesla opening the (NACS) standard, and making it available for all to use? You know, non-monopolistically?
Opening the North American Charging Standard | Tesla.com
It's not a perfect analogy between Standard Oil and Tesla supercharging. But I think it's close.
KBF
Model X owner (formerly Cdn Signature Model S)
Honda's high net favourability rating doesn't seem to help sell their cars...
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Regarding the magnitude, consider how in order for any other EV owner to use the Tesla network, they will be putting the Tesla App on their phone. This is free advertising every time they stop to charge. This, added to the smoother experience and higher charge rate compared to the other charging choices. The Tesla logo will become ubiquitous for EVs and Charging in a way like Staples' "Easy Button" did.
Getting to hang out and compare notes with all the Tesla owners while charging widens the impact of Tesla's main "advertising" channel, word of mouth. FUD will be rectified (pun intended) at a higher rate than before as these non-Tesla EV owners leave with a shared perspective after a trouble-free charging experience. "You meet the nicest people at a Tesla charging station"
This seems like a win-win-win for Tesla and the HODLers.
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