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Seems like an odd move considering how many cars are currently in inventory.
They were discounted because they weren't moving.
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Seems like an odd move considering how many cars are currently in inventory.
In the meantime, Tesla needs sell more cars and FSU needs the miles to continue to improve.
There are only 4 things we don't know:-Seems like an odd move considering how many cars are currently in inventory.
They were discounted because they weren't moving.
And yet here you are, looking back.I sold in Oct '22 @$350 and have never looked back
I think we need to bear in mind that this company is led by anautistic man who has a strong preference for literal, precise, matter-of-fact communication and a strong distaste for any form of deception, including white lies that neurotypical people find to be acceptableengineer.
I'd be curious to see, can you point me to a citation that is written by any civil engineer traffic expert that says TaaS helps with sustainability and/or a Tesla anaysis that was NOT written by cathy " i am a walking fruitcack" woods.Also Tesla has elaborated the sustainability aspect of Robotaxis several times and with the huge reduction in passenger vehicles overall (Privately used poorly utilised) along with the requirements for car parking, this will result in the urban footprint in US cities being transformed.
Wow that was pretty much an electrek article with lots of opinions
I find this theory to be plausible. Musk has many enemies in the industries he is disrupting, in politics, and in those that wish to control speech and thought. Would not be surprised to learn of efforts to push TSLA down to cause him to be forced to sell."In 2022, Musk raised $46.5 billion to acquire Twitter, a significant portion of which was obtained through pledging his own stocks. According to Tesla's filings, by the end of March 2023, Musk had pledged 58% of his stocks, totaling 238 million shares worth over $40 billion.During the six months Musk pushed for the Twitter deal, Tesla's stock price peaked at $384 and dropped to as low as $198 — about 22% higher than it is now. If Tesla's stock price continues to plummet, and Musk is unable to make additional payments to the lending institutions, his pledged stocks might be forcibly sold, potentially causing a vicious cycle. "Any such sales could further depress our stock price," stated Tesla's annual report."
Wall Street may finally have him trapped in his collateralized loans for Twitter backed by TSLA shares. If this is true, this may help explain the rapid shift in strategy. It truly is a bet-the-company moment.
That's just as outlandish as those saying Elon is tanking the stock.I find this theory to be plausible. Musk has many enemies in the industries he is disrupting, in politics, and in those that wish to control speech and thought. Would not be surprised to learn of efforts to push TSLA down to cause him to be forced to sell.
Touché, of course.And yet here you are, looking back.
Don't worry, I've made plenty of terrible investments as well.so you just dropped by to whine brag... i thought you would be busy on your yacht from your $350/share gains
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Seems like an odd move considering how many cars are currently in inventory.
They were discounted because they weren't moving.
The main argument on sustainability is that often private cars spend a high portion of the day parked, a Robotaxi spends more time driving around, so there are claims that a Robotaxi can replace 5-10 private cars, depending on who is doing the numbers.TaaS helps with sustainability
I quit reading at four inaccuracies...
You are assigning blame to WS. WS is not taking advantage of EM. EM made a deal, he's made lots of deals. The deal had conditions. WTF was he thinking I will never know, I assume he wasn't. This is why you have COUNSEL, he has none...on purpose. CT, keeping 4680 staff at 100 (WTF), and Twatter. Current issue is all on EM. X is hiring like crazy because they are rebuilding the same structure that existed before EM took control. So yeah, he bought a functioning un profitable company for far too much. F'd it up so it was no longer functional in the view of the ad folks, killed value and revenues, and now is having to rebuild it all and hope ad folks return.I'm not assigning fault away from Elon; I agree is was clearly a gamble. They are absolutely taking advantage of his potential miscalculation.
I get that very very simplistic view of how transportation works except it doesn't. The # of cars moving around in the day is a fraction of that moving at peak hours. You still have to move peak hours people. If RT isn't there to do that they will have cars, if they have a car why in the world wouldn't they use it to run an errand in the middle of the day or go to get a bite. RT will have a giant conundrum.The main argument on sustainability is that often private cars spend a high portion of the day parked, a Robotaxi spends more time driving around, so there are claims that a Robotaxi can replace 5-10 private cars, depending on who is doing the numbers.
Even at a replacement rate of 5, a single Robotaxi replaces 5 ICE cars, that is a way to efficiently accelerate the mission.
An additional factor is any additional expense in the form of technology like Single Crystal Cathode batteries is justified for Robotaxis, that means that the battery lasts for more miles, and that high mileage battery can be put to good use.
If the compact 2-seater design for Robotaxis is correct, these more compact vehicles can achieve a higher packing density on roads, and other Tesla vehicles can be used for trips needing a bigger vehicle.
If Boring Company tunnels are built these also take traffic off roads, a compact Robotaxi means that smaller cheaper tunnels can be built.
What Boring Company tunnels can potentially do is reduce trip times, allowing higher fleet utilisation during peak times and a smaller fleet.
Many posters here are trying to find holes in what Tesla and Elon are proposing, before we even know what they are proposing, and why they are proposing it.
I've seen no compelling evidence so far that any pivot toward Robotaxis is a "bet the company" proposition, that prohibits out a later change of mind, or prevents multiple parallel initiatives from happening