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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Well, that's business as usual for the financial media. I think it was in October 2019 that CNBC immediately published a headline "Tesla Mrs"
the moment the earnings report came out. Prom was, it wasn't a miss. Tesla beat Street expectations. However, in a deeply cynical and underhanded move, CNBC left their incorrectly titled article on their website until it was copied in syndication by over 400 other websites. Then and only then did they correct their headline. Damage done at that point, money already in the bank for CNBC, with no consequences.
Don't you just love that 1st Amendment protection? Sure, the Press has a right to lie for money. They're good at it, it's how they've earned their keep for decades. But like all good things, they must eventually come to an end.
Musskiah
DisGruntled
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Well that's your characterization of their advice. I wasn't following them at the time so unless you have specific links to illustrate your point, I'll reserve judgment. The "never sell" part sounds more like faulty memory then financial advice.
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
That investor, specifically, also bought a bunch on margin then later sold his house to invest and lived in his Tesla.
Canadian horses are stronger.
Drumheller
Active Member
Regardless of how anyone views Elon and Tesla today, the vote is about a contract made in 2018. Elon met all of the obligations for that contract.
Anyone voting "No" tells me they are the type of person that would not hold to integrity but instead would be opportunistic regardless of prior agreements.
That's my view.
stef
Member
Agreed.
What's worring is the fact that many that are in the stock nowadays bought after 2018 and a good % of them are underwater, angry at the company and after someone to blame for their situation.
If we were at ATH the re-vote would be a slam dunk...
I'm not going to try to sway you...but I would like to fix just a couple small errors in your wording:
1) Elon's pay package is not $56B. My understanding is that is options to buy a number of shares at a discounted price. I believe that the $56B comes from an assumed stock price multiplied by the sharecount...but just to exercise those options, he would have to pay the company the reduced price for the shares, and pay federal taxes on the value he received. So, even at a $56B valuation for the shares, Elon wouldn't see close to $56B. At today's lower price, the value of the shares is well below $56B...and he would still have to pay the same amount to exercise them, plus some smaller amount of federal taxes. Naturally, if the stock price was notably higher, it would be possible for his value to be more than $56B too.
2) At least via a quick google search, I believe you are correct that Elon has sold a total of about $40B in Tesla shares...but that wasn't all a big cash-out. I believe roughly $10B was sold to pay the required taxes on an earlier compensation package. For the Twitter fiasco, wsj via google seems to say he sold approximately $23 billion.
Again...I'm not trying to say any of that is "good," just making sure facts are as facty as possible.
Drumheller
Active Member
See Krugerrand comments about humanity.
Integrity is doing the right thing always, not just when it benefits the person directly.
I think what is said about the next gen vehicle will be key. If they reiterate it is on track for 2nd half of 2025 I think we rally from here. If they are postponing it or are ambiguous about it, we resume the slide.
I think there will be a vague statement about it interpreted completely different ways by different audiences, but typically earnings calls don't confirm or solidify future product updates with concrete facts.
My memories get muddier with time....but all I know is that I can never predict what the stock price will do with regards to an earnings report.
Sometimes a good earnings report results in a stock price drop for whatever reason....maybe because it wasn't "good enough" for somebody's expectation.
Sometimes a more negative earnings report results in a stock price increase....maybe because it wasn't as bad as somebody expected.
A lot of times I think the stock price moves one way for a day or so after the report, and then changes drection the next day, completely counteracting the original move and going beyond.
And, of course the stock could just stay relatively flat.
I also don't think Tesla releasing info on the new Model 3 Performance should have any real effect on the stock price, mainly because any "good" thing about it can quickly be discounted as "just another expensive toy for the rich!" and then a fresh recounting of how Tesla certainly and most definitely completely cancelled the $25K model and is doomed.
MartinAustin
Active Member
Bug in the website? Or... is the Performance Model 3 actually cheaper than the long-range variant (in the USA) once you take the "savings" into consideration?
Borrowing on margin for living expenses, then rates going up. On top of FOMO option trades and buying 'dips'.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Then there those like Uncle Leo, who intends to cut off his nose to spite his face by both buying lots more shares while voting against paying Elon for the work he has already done.
He's been bitter ever since he went all "Ross Gerber" on Elon back in 2022.
Buckminster
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