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Despite the fact that within the Swedish model, there is actually freedom to enter into collective agreements – or not. And despite the fact that Tesla already complies with Swedish labor market rules and offers equivalent or better agreements than those covered by collective bargaining.
For the LO unions, it is about maintaining and strengthening their own power, rather than out of concern for those who work in Tesla's workshops. It's not pretty when they punish employers who haven't done anything wrong.
Collective agreements have many advantages, for both employers and employees, but if you still do not want to enter into one, it must be respected. Six out of ten smaller companies – upwards of 200,000 – have chosen not to have a collective agreement, but they do not have to be inferior clients for that. On the contrary.
Sweden will be a poorer country if we cannot see the value of freedom and flexibility.
The press seems to get it: https://www.kristianstadsbladet.se/ledare/frihet-skapade-tesla-inte-kollektivavtal/
You know what’s going to happen, eh? The longer Tesla refuses to bend the knee, the more upset these businesses that are forced to sympathy strike and lose business are going to become.Seems like even the unions are starting to get frustrated with IF Metal:
(+) Teslakonflikten: 'Ska LO stänga hela Sverige?'
Teslakonflikten trappas upp. Transport påbörjar idag en blockad i fyra hamnar. Om tio dagar kan alla hamnar omfattas. Fastighets varslar om städstrejk hos elbilstillverkaren. De berörda företagen har kollektivavtal och både Transportföretagen och Almega är kritiska.www-lag--avtal-se.translate.goog
At 12:00 today, the Transport Workers' Union enters the Tesla conflict on IF Metall's side. Transport has announced a blockade of loading and unloading of Tesla cars in four ports. The measure affects four ports that have collective agreements and that had expected labor peace. Transport returned today with an extension of the blockade. From 17 November it may apply to all Swedish ports. The Port Workers' Union today posted a similar notice .
Jörgen Nilsson, CEO of Trelleborgs hamn AB says that he feels divided on the issue of industrial action that affects companies that have agreed to a labor peace agreement. He strives for as good a dialogue as possible with the trade unions. As an employer, the port of Trelleborg protects the Swedish model, he says.
- And part of that is having a collective agreement. Thus, we need to have solidarity with this type of actions. That's one side. But the second is that we want labor peace and we are not part of this. I know no details of the conflict and cannot influence. But now it is as it is and we have no intention of circumventing the blockade.
Loading and unloading of cars is a new and still quite small part of the business in Trelleborg's port, according to Jörgen Nilsson.
- But it is important. Tesla is a good customer for us, we are positive about the goods and the blockade will be a financial loss, of course. As simple as that.
Transport blockade only applies to Tesla cars. In practical terms, the notice has meant that Tesla will not transport any cars via the port of Trelleborg from today, according to Jörgen Nilsson.
- I don't know where those cars go, he says.
The four ports are not the only collective agreement signing companies that have been drawn into the Tesla conflict. Since last Friday, IF Metall has been carrying out sympathy strikes against the handling of Tesla cars at 17 workshops, including Axess, Holmgrens Bil and Werksta.
At the Motor Industry Employers' Association, head of negotiations Hanna Alsén is critical.
"What is remarkable is that IF Metall and the Transport Workers' Union are now notifying our member companies that already have collective agreements," she comments in a press release .
At the employer organization Sveriges Hamnar, head of negotiations Johan Grauers is also critical.
"We see that the warnings in this case risk hitting the hardest against the companies that actually stand up for this model," he comments in the press release.
The transport companies, which include the Motor Industry Employers' Association and Sweden's Ports, decline an interview with Lag&Avtal.
In the morning, Almega received a notice of sympathy measures from the Real Estate Employees' Association. This applies to two cleaning companies that are members of the Almega service unions and that clean Tesla's premises. Union director Stefan Koskinen says that the two companies have collective agreements and decent terms.
- Nevertheless, they are threatened by a strike. It is outrageous that the LO unions proceed in this way. There's no telling Elon Musk will give up. Does LO then intend to close the whole country? Then we shoot ourselves in the foot.
Stefan Koskinen believes that Sweden, which has perhaps the world's freest regulation of industrial action, must consider limitations.
- We can start by looking at our neighboring countries.
Almega does not currently have a clear proposal, but it could be about demands that industrial action be proportionate in relation to which company is affected, how it is connected to the core of the conflict and how third parties are affected, says Stefan Koskinen.
But it will be a massive loss of respect for IF Metal. Like Elon says, "sunlight is the best disinfectant" and the Union is getting their dose of sunlight right now and will likely have to reform or die unless they somehow manage to outlast Tesla.You know what’s going to happen, eh? The longer Tesla refuses to bend the knee, the more upset these businesses that are forced to sympathy strike and lose business are going to become.
As the smaller businesses have to layoff employees or worse shut their doors completely, the more tensions will rise until the whole pack of union dogs starts attacking each other. Soon Tesla is completely forgotten about and the entire Swedish Labour market and union structure is turned upset down and gets revamped into something that is actually fair for businesses and workers.
Or IF Metall gets pressured enough by the other unions and told to back away and then everyone goes back to business as usual, where everyone was prospering - businesses and workers.
I laugh because ‘we have a union for everything’ including the Union for Workers Hanging Laundry and the Union for Workers Restocking Grocery Store Shelves.Motorbranschens Arbetsgivareförbund kommenterar de utökade varslen
Flera fackförbund har lagt varsel om stridsåtgärder mot två förbund inom Transportföretagen. Varslen sker i sympati med IF Metalls konflikt mot Tesla. Hanna Alsén, förhandlingschef på Motorbranschens Arbetsgivarförbund, ser att lagda sympativarsel riskerar att missa målet.www-transportforetagen-se.translate.goog
The Motor Industry Employers' Association comments on the extended notices
November 11, 2023
Several trade unions have given notice of industrial action against two unions within Transportföretagen. The announcement is made in sympathy with IF Metall's conflict against Tesla. Hanna Alsén, head of negotiations at the Motor Industry Employers' Association, sees that sympathy notices risk missing the mark.
- We question whether a sympathy notice will have an effect on Tesla as a company. It appears to only affect companies that already have collective agreements and individual car owners. We see that it is an unfortunate situation which, in the event of a protracted conflict, risks threatening Swedish jobs, says Hanna Alsén, head of negotiations at the Motor Industry Employers' Association.
The motor industry employers' association has approximately 2,000 members and of these approximately 1,200 members are affiliated to the Motor Industry Agreement. That is, the agreement that IF Metall now wants Tesla to join as well. The motor industry employers' association and Sveriges Hamnar do not object to the right to strike or IF Metall's notice against Tesla.
- We share the union's view that the Swedish model serves Sweden well and understand why IF Metall wishes to reach a collective agreement with Tesla. But the union's notice now affects our member companies, which already have collective agreements, and not Tesla. Our member companies have very little opportunity to influence the outcome of the conflict, but are still heavily affected financially. There is a risk that jobs will disappear due to the industrial action, says Hanna Alsén in a closing comment.
CURRENT NOTICE
1. Combat measures initiated on 3 November 2023 at 00.01 at two of MAF's member companies located in several locations.
2. Combat measures initiated on 10 November 2023 at 00.01 at three of MAF's located in several locations.
3. Combat measures initiated on 17 November 2023 at 00.01 at one of MAF's member companies located in several locations.
4. Transport announced a blockade against the loading and unloading of Tesla cars as of November 7, 2023 at 12.00 at four member companies in Sveriges Hamnar.
5. Transport and the Swedish Port Workers' Association have subsequently announced a blockade against all loading and unloading of Tesla cars in all member companies in Sweden's Ports from and including November 17, 2023 at 12.00.
6. The Painters' Association has announced a blockade against all painting of Tesla cars from November 21 at 12.00 against all car refinishers.
If you are a member of the Motor Industry Employers' Association or Sweden's Ports, you can read more about what applies to your company here .
Certainly helped. But caterpillar fights with the UAW lead a to very specific outcome.I would hazard a guess that Japanese (auto) imports as well as offshoring other manufacturing to China also led to the decline of a number of midwestern communities.
Vertical integration turned to 11.Tesla are still hiring in Sweden:
Seems to be a lot of repair, paint jobs and even truck drivers(those that are on sympathy strike). Maybe they intend to inhouse a lot of the business that is on sympathy strike.
5 million vehicles, so more cars than example in Ohio, and even Texas with ~7 million is not far off...Does Tesla need Sweden? Sounds like it’s a small fraction of the market. If this keeps up, walk away and focus on the sub-compact in much bigger markets like India
The 130% is okay. Salary is not the only thing you earn, pensions, paid vacation etc are added to it.