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Test drive of a petrol car

Having heard so much good about petrol cars, we decided to test drive one. They are said to combine cheap price with long range and fast charging. A winning formula on paper – but how are they in real life?

We sat us in the loaner car at the car salesman’s office. Automakers do not sell the cars themselves, only through independent car repair shops as middlemen. It may sound like a bad omen to buy the car from a car repair shop that you want to visit as seldom as possible. But you apparently can’t buy the car directly from the manufacturer, so you must go through such intermediaries. The seller was very “pushy” and tried to convince us to buy the car very forcibly, but the experience is perhaps better elsewhere.

So we sat in the car and pressed the START button. The car’s gasoline engine coughed to life and started to operate. One could hear the engine’s sound and the car’s whole body vibrated as if something was broken, but the seller assured us that everything was as it should. The car actually has an electric motor and a microscopically small battery, but they are only used to start the petrol engine – the electric motor does not drive the wheels. The petrol engine then uses a tank full of gasoline, a fossil liquid, to propel the car by exploding small drops of it. It is apparently the small explosions that you hear and feel when the engine is running.

The car repair shop salesman reassured us that the flammable petrol gasoline beneath our seats was completely safe and would only typically leak in the event of a crash. He also spoke of being able to drive over 300 miles without refilling which we thought was odd as who would do this in one go without wanting a bathroom break or a refreshment.

The petrol engine consists of literally hundreds of moving parts that must have tolerance of hundredths of a millimeter to function. We begun to understand why it is car repair shops that sell the cars – they might hope for something to break in the car that they can mend?

We put in a gear and drove away with a jerk. The jerk came not from any extreme acceleration, but gasoline engines apparently cannot be driven as smoothly as electric motors. The acceleration did not occur at all, because we could not get the car to go faster than 40 mph! By then the petrol engine literally howled and the whole car shook violently. Convinced that something must have broken we stopped the car. The seller then explained that with petrol engines you need to “change gears” on a regular basis. Between the engine and the wheels are not a fixed ratio gear, but a variable one. The petrol engine can produce power only in a limited speed range, and must therefore be geared with different ratios in order to continue to accelerate.

There are 5 different gears we can select with increasing speed as result. It is -as we learned quickly- very important that each time select a suitable gear otherwise the engine will either stop or get seriously damaged! You need a lot of training to learn to select the right gear at the right time – though there are also models with automatic transmissions that can do this themselves. In the manual transmission car, we needed to constantly guard the engine from damaging it. Very stressful.

We asked if the constant sound of the engine -that frankly disturbed us from being able to listen to the radio- could be turned off. But it couldn’t. Very distracting.

After getting the car up to speed through intricate changing of gears we approached a traffic light. Releasing the accelerator pedal resulted in no significant braking, we had to use the brake pedal very much to slow down the car. We were surprised to hear the brakes are completely mechanical! The only thing they generate is heat – braking gives no regeneration of gasoline back into the tank!

Sounds like a huge waste, but it would soon get even worse.

Not all my work but insightful nonetheless…..

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The OP makes an error or two. The electric vehicle with a 300 mile range surprisingly drops to 200 miles in the depths of winter which equates with a true range of 100 miles there and again back unless there is a convenient recharge facility en route or at destination and if the additional time to find said charger, queue and refuel doesn't matter.

Had the OP test driven a more fuel dense diesel car with better low rpm torque and modern enough to have an automatic gear box he could have sat in a car with a good 500 range even in winter allowing unrestricted travel in a 250 mile radius.

Instead of carting a massive dead weight of battery pack around he could have transported himself light and nimble. And I don't know how he drives but the engine will slow the vehicle via the transmission if lifting off the go pedal but in a more subtle way that also allow one to coast effectively towards junctions and crossings to save fuel.

Past concerns about pollution don't really apply now that all our manufacturing has been moved to China, India Pakistan and the like because obviously such well-equipped and high volume manufacturing facilities are set up with energy efficiency and worker rights at their forefront. You may notice how this allows fashionisters the luxury of swapping out their clothing, mobile phones and domestic appliances regularly to keep pace with change.

And some of us are lucky to not have to worry about storm damage and power cuts because it's so easy to keep a few spare cans of diesel at home should the need for a top-up arise.

My Tesla S is a fine car to drive. Comfortable and smooth so long as you don't want to depend on any automation or change anything like the radio station while negotiating A and B roads but my diesel has much better driver ergonomics and is easily refuelled in a few minutes at the supermarket with the weekly shop. I could do the same thing with my Tesla but I'd have to spend longer in the shop and pay at least 75p per KWH to fill up in 30 mins.

I can also get my diesel repaired in one of many local garages within say 10 miles rather than the nearest specialist centre 55 miles away and the next 90 miles away unless fortunate enough for something simple that can be done on the driveway..

Horses for courses
 
You haven't mentioned the thing learner drives struggle with - the clutch. That little dance you have to do with your feet with the two peddles each time you change gear, pull away or stop.
But the world has moved on! The auto box just needs you to use the brake to stay stationary for short times. This is the same sort of improvements that happened along with no further need for a flag man in front or starting with a handle, hand signals, hammering the b pillar to rattle the little flag indicator loose, keeping a cloth handy to wipe the condensation off the windscreen, a set of maps in the appropriate pocket and so forth
 
But the world has moved on! The auto box just needs you to use the brake to stay stationary for short times. This is the same sort of improvements that happened along with no further need for a flag man in front or starting with a handle, hand signals, hammering the b pillar to rattle the little flag indicator loose, keeping a cloth handy to wipe the condensation off the windscreen, a set of maps in the appropriate pocket and so forth
You say that, but have you seen how many cars are sold that are manual? Auto gearboxes, DSG etc, are all good for people with more money... but when starting out or where price is everything, manual and a clutch is the way to go.
 
The OP makes an error or two. The electric vehicle with a 300 mile range surprisingly drops to 200 miles in the depths of winter which equates with a true range of 100 miles there and again back unless there is a convenient recharge facility en route or at destination and if the additional time to find said charger, queue and refuel doesn't matter.

Had the OP test driven a more fuel dense diesel car with better low rpm torque and modern enough to have an automatic gear box he could have sat in a car with a good 500 range even in winter allowing unrestricted travel in a 250 mile radius.
I can absolutely assure you that my 2023 Audi Q3 Vorsprung (a very, very good car with a modern petrol engine and S-Tronic auto gears) is neither capable of 500 miles on one tank, nor was it ever. Equally, I can tell you with absolute confidence that the circa 440 miles it will do in summer conditions is reduced significantly when driving to Scotland in December. My previous Audi was a diesel (A3) and also a very nice car. But it was a diesel. A very highly refined tractor.

More to the point, I'm pretty sure the OP was posting very much tongue in cheek and probably just taking the chance to have a dig back at the innumerable and often ill-informed anti EV posts. There was never a need to get all serious about it. Happy January :)
 
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But the world has moved on! The auto box just needs you to use the brake to stay stationary for short times. This is the same sort of improvements that happened along with no further need for a flag man in front or starting with a handle, hand signals, hammering the b pillar to rattle the little flag indicator loose, keeping a cloth handy to wipe the condensation off the windscreen, a set of maps in the appropriate pocket and so forth
But OP stated having to change gears, implying its a manual. That said, no mention of a horrible grinding noise whilst trying to hamfist the gears in each time they had to change :oops:
 
Yes, a long time ago. I saw the contra one at the time which I can't find now and that would be worth finding as some of the points made then are probably now solved. I recall, but over the years its become fuzzy, references to range and needing to charge up on a test drive, one trick pony acceleration and the lack of noise gave no sense of excitement, the first corner and ploughing straight on etc. It's all very stereotypical
 
Fantastic and funny post @Sixer and i agree with the feel and experience coming from a Tesla M3 for 4 years.

I now have a BMW X2 Hybrid - Starting this car i have to press/pull 3 blooming things in a particular order before i pull off. No more just get in and bashing in a 4 pin code, slapping the gear shift down and driving off!

NOTE - This is a company choice of car and not mine and they don't (won't) do Fully electric! - BUT i am slightly better off in money terms (BIK Tax vs Car Allowance + man math stuff). More money to leave my kids the better.

Who the bloody hell said hybrids are a better choice if you don't want to go fully electric? Blooming Nora, I'm filling up ever 250-300miles 30ish litre tank - once a week for me! and it only does 22miles to the charge which takes 3hrs on a good day. You are also constantly plugging the dam thing in and if not you will be lucky to hit 35mpg on the fuel.

It's a £46-47k car with only half the kit of a Tesla ("BMW Add-on" this and that if you want too).

I have had orange christmas light appear on the dashboard with errors that its now booked in next week to fix the "high voltage battery" and "drive train" problems (Only have 1500 miles on the clock).

If you are thinking of getting a BMW X2 (no add-ons) here is the list of thing that you don't get! Unless you are willing to pay stupid money for them:

Folding mirrors on Park - Forget it (Add-on)
Mirrors dip on reverse - Forget it (Add-on)
Reversing camera - Forget it (Add-on)
Traffic Aware Cruise control - Forget it (Add-on)
Inbuilt maps that work - Forget it
Android Auto - Forget it (It does have apple carplay - but that is very phone-ist! I don't have an apple)
Love being the person pulling off first at Traffic lights - Forget it
One pedal driving - Forget it
Keyless entry - Forget it (Add-on)

The good:

Auto Windscreen wipers work :p
 
All done I'm sure as very tongue and cheek - surprised it wasn't moved by admin to the ICE section, as my almost identical post was last week.
 
The OP makes an error or two. The electric vehicle with a 300 mile range surprisingly drops to 200 miles in the depths of winter which equates with a true range of 100 miles there and again back unless there is a convenient recharge facility en route or at destination and if the additional time to find said charger, queue and refuel doesn't matter.

Had the OP test driven a more fuel dense diesel car with better low rpm torque and modern enough to have an automatic gear box he could have sat in a car with a good 500 range even in winter allowing unrestricted travel in a 250 mile radius.

Instead of carting a massive dead weight of battery pack around he could have transported himself light and nimble. And I don't know how he drives but the engine will slow the vehicle via the transmission if lifting off the go pedal but in a more subtle way that also allow one to coast effectively towards junctions and crossings to save fuel.

Past concerns about pollution don't really apply now that all our manufacturing has been moved to China, India Pakistan and the like because obviously such well-equipped and high volume manufacturing facilities are set up with energy efficiency and worker rights at their forefront. You may notice how this allows fashionisters the luxury of swapping out their clothing, mobile phones and domestic appliances regularly to keep pace with change.

And some of us are lucky to not have to worry about storm damage and power cuts because it's so easy to keep a few spare cans of diesel at home should the need for a top-up arise.

My Tesla S is a fine car to drive. Comfortable and smooth so long as you don't want to depend on any automation or change anything like the radio station while negotiating A and B roads but my diesel has much better driver ergonomics and is easily refuelled in a few minutes at the supermarket with the weekly shop. I could do the same thing with my Tesla but I'd have to spend longer in the shop and pay at least 75p per KWH to fill up in 30 mins.

I can also get my diesel repaired in one of many local garages within say 10 miles rather than the nearest specialist centre 55 miles away and the next 90 miles away unless fortunate enough for something simple that can be done on the driveway..

Horses for courses
The original post is at least 8+ years old and of course satire to begin with.
 
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