TMC is an independent, primarily volunteer organization that relies on ad revenue to cover its operating costs. Please consider whitelisting TMC on your ad blocker or making a Paypal contribution here: paypal.me/SupportTMC

The Tesla-approved body shop turned off mobile app access

Discussion in 'Model S' started by Barry, Feb 4, 2016.

  1. Barry

    Barry Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    783
    Location:
    Colorado
    Earlier this week, I took my MS in for a long-awaited (parts delay from Tesla) repair/replacement of a damaged quarter panel. Last night, I thought I'd ping the car via the mobile app to see exactly where it was, etc.

    On the app, a box popped up, "Mobile App Remote access is OFF," with instructions on how to turn it back on via the 17" screen.

    I haven't called the body shop, but am considering doing so. Why would they turn mobile app access off? Do you think they have the right to do this?
     
  2. DCGOO

    DCGOO Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2015
    Messages:
    234
    Location:
    Indianapolis, IN
    I suspect they removed all power when they began working on it. That would be normal in my mind.
     
  3. MassModel3

    MassModel3 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2014
    Messages:
    903
    Location:
    MA South Shore
    #3 MassModel3, Feb 4, 2016
    Last edited: Feb 4, 2016
    They've done this on my car several times when I took it in for service. Typically it's when they keep the car overnight, but not always. Realistically, they don't want you controlling the car remotely while they're working on it, so it's a safety issue for them. What if you locked them out of the car (just plain frustrating), or opened the sunroof in the rain or while they're working on it (they could lose a finger), or honked the horn while they were under the car (they get startled and get hurt)? My service center seems to disable that for all but the quickest of fixes.

    Pretty smart thing to do in my mind.
     
  4. Barry

    Barry Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    783
    Location:
    Colorado
    Possible, but I would expect a different message if the car was "not there." I've had times when I've received a "cannot connect to car," or something similar, when parked in an underground parking garage with no wifi or 3G signal.
     
  5. Chris TX

    Chris TX Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,486
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    And just imagine if someone decided to Summon the Car while it was being worked on. Smart move by the shop. Don't trust them? Maybe get a dash cam.
     
  6. mgboyes

    mgboyes Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    811
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Not at all surprised that remote access is turned off during maintenance. I've experienced the same thing (though not on all occasions).

    If it's an authorised repairer my bet is that Tesla advise this. The summon example would be particularly scary.
     
  7. MsElectric

    MsElectric Active Member

    Joined:
    Oct 11, 2014
    Messages:
    1,611
    Location:
    New York
    Can you keep the car on Valet Mode while the body shop works on the car? That would prevent a body shop employee having "fun" with the car.
     
  8. Max*

    Max* Autopilot != Autonomous

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2015
    Messages:
    4,872
    Location:
    NoVa
    I was about to write that summon wouldn't work unless the key was in proximity, but the key is in proximity...
     
  9. FlasherZ

    FlasherZ Sig Model S + Sig Model X + Model 3 Resv

    Joined:
    Jun 21, 2012
    Messages:
    7,019
    Many Tesla service centers (and by extension, Tesla-approved body shops) will disable remote access for the reasons mentioned above (horn, sunroof, lights, etc.) In the early days, too many people did stupid things.
     
  10. Caligula

    Caligula Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2015
    Messages:
    600
    Location:
    San Diego
    Not that it matters to your point, but the pano roof has sensors to prevent injury as such.
     
  11. Krugerrand

    Krugerrand Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2012
    Messages:
    4,282
    Location:
    California
    Simply turn it back on. No biggie, even if there's some nefarious reasons for them having turned it off. :rolleyes:
     
  12. roblab

    roblab Active Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Messages:
    2,025
    Location:
    Angwin (Napa Valley) CA
    When my car was in the shop for a month, of course I wanted to monitor the battery charge. And I wanted to see where the car was.

    Before we started I asked the Tesla guy to leave the app on. I told him I knew they didn't want people fooling around while they were working on it, but I wasn't going to do that, and please leave it on.

    They did.

    That's all I think you need. Be aware that they want to turn it off, and let them know if you want it left on. The customer is always right, isn't he?

    I wonder if Tesla could work the software so that when the car is in "shop mode" the app can be visible, but you can't control the car.
     
  13. sorka

    sorka Active Member

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2015
    Messages:
    3,267
    Location:
    Merced, CA
    And how is that supposed to prevent injury to the car when the tech jumps and knocks the tool into your $100K aluminum body work when the horn honks or the moon roof suddenly opens for no apparent reason?

    Out of 5 SC visits, only the very first visit did they shut the app access off.

    They didn't even do it for the battery swap so as soon as the battery was installed, the car came back to life and I got multiple status messages regarding the failed software update. Apparently it took a dozen attempts or so. All the while the app access was enabled.
     
  14. NOLA_Mike

    NOLA_Mike Active Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2013
    Messages:
    1,560
    Location:
    Hammond, LA
    If I had a shop and a Tesla turned up to be worked on, first thing I'd do is disable remote access.

    Too many "things" can happen. Car is sitting outside waiting on parts and someone remotely opens roof (be it on purpose or inadvertently), it rains inside and shop is potentially acused of causing the damage.
     
  15. eye.surgeon

    eye.surgeon Member

    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2014
    Messages:
    709
    Location:
    California
    Wow, break out the tin-foil hats.

    Remote access should always be turned off when the car is in service. The fact that this shop knows how to do it and knows they should do it is a good sign IMO. It means they know something about Teslas.
     
  16. Barry

    Barry Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    783
    Location:
    Colorado
    Not that I'd do that without telling them, but it can't be turned back on remotely Has to be done from the car.
     
  17. Shawn Snider

    Shawn Snider Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2014
    Messages:
    204
    Location:
    BC, Canada
    Your car is already half-way to China to be sold! :D
     
  18. RAW84

    RAW84 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2014
    Messages:
    340
    Location:
    Boston

    Main reason I'd do it. Liability concerns.
     
  19. Chris TX

    Chris TX Active Member

    Joined:
    Sep 30, 2013
    Messages:
    1,486
    Location:
    Dallas, TX
    Valet mode also locks the frunk. If they are doing any front end work, that would just slow things down.
     
  20. Barry

    Barry Member

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2013
    Messages:
    783
    Location:
    Colorado
    I called them this morning. They said they've had some issues with cars being damaged from remote operation, such as opening the liftgate. Wasn't aware that could be done remotely. Maybe an issue with another car.
     

Share This Page