To upgrade or not

[lmhufty]

I currently own a 2016 Tesla Model S. With the recent price reductions, I've been looking at the new 2023 Model S. So I have two questions for you if anyone willing to help me.

1. I currently have unlimited charging on my vehicle which is transferable to a new buyer. In addition, though, Tesla's offered to transfer that unlimited charging to a new model. Model S. In your opinion, does the addition of the unlimited charging add a significant price to the resale value of my 2016? I have a home charger, and only use the superchargers occasionally.

2. With all that's going on in the EV market and with Tesla, it's this even a good time to consider buying a new vehicle?

I would greatly appreciate your honesty. Thank you for your time.
Lawrence Hufty.

 

[sorka]

It’s not a legacy car.

Sorry. I thought we were talking about the Model S.

 

[WilliamG]

Sorry. I thought we were talking about the Model S.

We are. And it's not a legacy car.

 

[dsm363]

It's a legacy platform that isn't going to sell more if they happen to get around to porting the code over.

I thought they shared a lot in common. They forced Model S and X over to the horizontal display for example.
I would think they wouldn't want to overshadow their top of the line car with something that's half the price but maybe not.

 

[dsm363]

We are. And it's not a legacy car.

Agree. It just went through a decent revision 2 years ago. May not be a high volume car so can see why they'd focus on Model 3 first but hard to imagine they'd ignore the Model S when the hardware is already there.

 

[sorka]

We are. And it's not a legacy car.

I guess it's just pre-refresh that is being called "Legacy".

Pre-refresh S / X now officially known as “Legacy” in terms of software

If you haven’t seen, Tesla recently released the V11 software update for all models and with that update Tesla has confirmed that S and X models as late as model year 2021 are now “legacy” and it seems a lot of new software features will not be coming to these cars in the future regardless of if...

teslamotorsclub.com

 

[WilliamG]

I guess it's just pre-refresh that is being called "Legacy".

Pre-refresh S / X now officially known as “Legacy” in terms of software

If you haven’t seen, Tesla recently released the V11 software update for all models and with that update Tesla has confirmed that S and X models as late as model year 2021 are now “legacy” and it seems a lot of new software features will not be coming to these cars in the future regardless of if...

teslamotorsclub.com

That’s correct. Up to mid 2021 would be considered Legacy. Mid 2021 and on is very much current.

 

[sorka]

That’s correct. Up to mid 2021 would be considered Legacy. Mid 2021 and on is very much current.

Since I see nearly daily references to the S/X as being Legacy, I'm just going to disagree here. Not that I think this is a disparagement on the platform. I just ordered my 3rd Tesla and they've all been S/X.

Per earning call...The next gen, low cost vehicle will be designed, and made in Austin. "Elon time" production schedule starts end of '25.

So, new development should not tax resources in Fremont, and MS and MX production.

Possibly less effort to be spent on modernization of legacy platforms.

 

[WilliamG]

Since I see nearly daily references to the S/X as being Legacy, I'm just going to disagree here. Not that I think this is a disparagement on the platform. I just ordered my 3rd Tesla and they've all been S/X.

It’s a current model, only been out a couple of years, and is nearly completely different from the older Model S. Wider, more aggressive, completely new interior from top to bottom, new motors including a third on the Plaid. Might as well call the Model 3 legacy, in that case. After all, even Highland is a moderate interior upgrade, not entirely new like the S (and X). And it has the same motors and battery as the prior years. So if the S/X is legacy, so is 3/Y.

 

[sorka]

It’s a current model, only been out a couple of years, and is nearly completely different from the older Model S. Wider, more aggressive, completely new interior from top to bottom, new motors including a third on the Plaid. Might as well call the Model 3 legacy, in that case. After all, even Highland is a moderate interior upgrade, not entirely new like the S (and X). And it has the same motors and battery as the prior years. So if the S/X is legacy, so is 3/Y.

I already heard you. You need to go track down everyone else and convince them

 

[WilliamG]

I already heard you. You need to go track down everyone else and convince them

I don’t think anyone will really disagree if they think about it. In terms of Tesla’s next-generation platform referenced, then sure - all the current models are legacy. But that’s it. In normal, forum lingo, nobody is referring to the current cars as legacy. If someone here said they bought a legacy Model S, we’d all assume that to mean a pre-2021 refresh model.

 

[piemanklp]

Steer by wire + the yoke would be a great addition after a couple years of the Cybertruck proving out the reliability of the system. Also updated buttons on the steering wheel to have a more physical feeling a la highland.

I'm really curious to see if the model 3 performance will emerge with a starker contrast to the standard/LR when compared to the pre-highland performance version. Different seats seem to have been leaked. Perhaps different front and rear as well. It might be nice to see some of those things come to the plaid S.

All of the above would make for some pretty compelling changes.

In the meantime I'm also a little worried about the 4680 cells. If they refresh the model s in the next year or two and haven't sorted out the charging curve of 4680 they could nerf the s pretty hard. I understand it's better economics for them to control that production.. I just don't want it to affect us negatively. In that regard the current car is a known quantity and may very well be the sweet spot. Why mess with something so good already.

 

[dsm363]

I don’t think anyone will really disagree if they think about it. In terms of Tesla’s next-generation platform referenced, then sure - all the current models are legacy. But that’s it. In normal, forum lingo, nobody is referring to the current cars as legacy. If someone here said they bought a legacy Model S, we’d all assume that to mean a pre-2021 refresh model.

I would think legacy would be pre-AP Model S but it's not a very specific term for sure. But I see your other posts on what Tesla considers legacy.