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Torn Between Dual Motor LR and Performance

aspec818

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Nov 15, 2018
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Speaking from first hand experience, if you already want a Performance now, you will always have doubts later on wish you got the P instead. You’ll end up spending more money down the line by selling and re-buying. And since you live in an area that’s 20-30 deg, you will likely swap out the wheel and tires anyways so that really isn’t an issue. Also, the P also doesn’t carry a noticeably harsher ride/suspension regardless. The LR and P felt exactly the same to me (19’s to 20’s)
 
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Phlier

Bluebird
Jun 12, 2019
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Utah
What's your delivery time frame? Mine is March 03-31
Traditionally, Tesla manufactures cars for over seas delivery during the first half of each quarter. They then shift gears and produce cars for domestic deliveries, with east coast deliveries being produced first.

Just a couple of quick suggestions...

If their delivery procedures are the same as when I got my car, they will try to get you to sign the paperwork before letting you see your car. They can be pretty pushy about this, too.

When I asked to see the car first, they actually told me, “sorry, but that isn’t our procedure. We won’t allow you access to the car until the papers are signed.” I usually have a pretty high tolerance for BS, but this triggered me. As politely as I could (through clenched teeth), I reminded them that I was the customer here, and that I wouldn’t be handing them a check for sixty two thousand dollars and would not be signing anything until I had the opportunity to inspect and accept the car. I also made it quite clear that the entire process would be shared on social media to the greatest extent possible.

That kinda changed things around. From that point on, everything went according to my desires, as it should have been from the start.

TL;DR: don’t let them push you around and don’t accept a car that doesn’t pass muster with you.
 
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Devils son

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Dec 31, 2013
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I would love to hear more details on the differences as I haven't been able to find much information? Is it purely software based?

The rear motor is different (since 2019). But it is also software of course.

I looked at the difference between P and LR boost in terms of power. For 2021 at higher speeds (100 mph) the difference is roughly 45 hp. This used to be around 20 hp.

Around that speed the boost and LR have the same power.

At 50 mph the difference is roughly 60 hp difference between LR and LR boost and 100 hp between LR boost and P.
 

toddkageals

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Dec 8, 2020
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Vinton
Traditionally, Tesla manufactures cars for over seas delivery during the first half of each quarter. They then shift gears and produce cars for domestic deliveries, with east coast deliveries being produced first.

Just a couple of quick suggestions...

If their delivery procedures are the same as when I got my car, they will try to get you to sign the paperwork before letting you see your car. They can be pretty pushy about this, too.

When I asked to see the car first, they actually told me, “sorry, but that isn’t our procedure. We won’t allow you access to the car until the papers are signed.” I usually have a pretty high tolerance for BS, but this triggered me. As politely as I could (through clenched teeth), I reminded them that I was the customer here, and that I wouldn’t be handing them a check for sixty two thousand dollars and would not be signing anything until I had the opportunity to inspect and accept the car. I also made it quite clear that the entire process would be shared on social media to the greatest extent possible.

That kinda changed things around. From that point on, everything went according to my desires, as it should have been from the start.

TL;DR: don’t let them push you around and don’t accept a car that doesn’t pass muster with you.
Did they let you drive it first, or just do a visual inspection? Good advice. I appreciate it. Best to be prepared to address that kind of thing BEFORE it's sprung on you at the last minute.
 

toddkageals

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Dec 8, 2020
114
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Vinton
When I totaled my wife's TM3 AWD (I hit a curb and sufficiently gooned the suspension for my insurance to total it), we were torn between replacing it or upgrading to the Performance. In the end, we got another AWD with aero wheels and:

Bought a new set of 19" aftermarket rims and high performance 245/40 R19 Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3 Plus tires ($2,000)
  • Bought the speed boost ($2,000)
  • Installed a carbon fiber spoiler ($300)
  • Installed wheel spacers, 15mm front and 20mm aft ($250)
  • Installed red brake covers, ($250)

So, for under $5,000 more than the AWD, we get:
  • similar summer compound yet wider tires than the Performance's; they both look better and also protect the
  • stronger, lighter, (subjectively) better looking aftermarket 19" rims, which are better suited for our pothole-rich area of town
  • a 1" higher suspension, again, better for our steep driveway departure, many speed bumps on our street, and all the potholes
  • smaller brakes, for better efficiency (we'll never track this car)
  • a spare/aero set of wheels and tires, for long distance road trips or as full size spares
  • a car that is visually very close to a Performance (true aficionados would notice the brake covers, the glossy carbon fiber spoiler, and the lack of underline in the Dual Motor badge; the wheels are not a good indicator, as many people replace wheels)
  • a car that is imperceptibly (to me) slower than the Performance
This follows my thinking almost exactly. I strongly considered this course, for all of the same reasons you did! Logically, this makes perfect sense for me, and I feel almost certain that I would have been happy with that decision. However, I'm getting the P :cool:!
 

F14Scott

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Apr 7, 2019
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Houston
This follows my thinking almost exactly. I strongly considered this course, for all of the same reasons you did! Logically, this makes perfect sense for me, and I feel almost certain that I would have been happy with that decision. However, I'm getting the P :cool:!
It was the taller suspension and hardier wheels, for us.

We just knew that the 20" P wheels, with their little, exposed edges and the smaller, drawn-in sidewalls would get destroyed on our streets, and my wife HATES when the nose scrapes coming out of the driveway, even on the AWD, so the P would have killed her, being an inch lower. The aftermarket wheels are 8" (vice stock 8.5") and the tires are wider 245mm (vice stock 235mm), adding up to tires that poke out from the rims a tiny bit, protecting them from rash. Our first AWD was rashed on all 4 corners within the first year, but the new ones appear relatively safe.

We like the softer ride. We aren't weekend racers. We are safer from scraping and road damage. We still look pretty cool...
 
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TBrownTX

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Dec 25, 2020
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Dallas, TX
Makes total sense. Quite frankly, I don't see any good reason to get a P if it's not going to see a racetrack or autocross course.

Lower stance, better handling, appearance benefits (spoiler, sport pedals, painted calipers), improved brakes, and I like the wheels very much.

Oh and it’s 1/2 second faster going 0-60 (fun). Other than that, I agree completely. ;)

Not all of us live in states with terrible roads and/ or horrible climates.

Tim
 
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Phlier

Bluebird
Jun 12, 2019
1,283
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Utah
Did they let you drive it first, or just do a visual inspection? Good advice. I appreciate it. Best to be prepared to address that kind of thing BEFORE it's sprung on you at the last minute.
I did a 30 minute inspection of the car, verifying that everything worked and documenting the two paint flaws that I found. I did make sure it went into both forward and reverse, but didn't bother with a test drive... although that's not a bad idea.
 

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