Nike went up 8% after hours even in this climate on a decent earnings beat of 52 cents versus 46 cents expected. So perhaps there are still investors out there willing to buy on good news.
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Nike went up 8% after hours even in this climate on a decent earnings beat of 52 cents versus 46 cents expected. So perhaps there are still investors out there willing to buy on good news.
I agree with your sense that it may take the Q4 report to make a major difference. Of course, that's not a guarantee to pull Tesla away from the larger trend of the general market sell off in that time frame. I think it's reasonably likely, but, I'm a long term buy and holder, so I don't trade in ways that require that to happen.
$530 sounds about right to me. fwiw, I think we will be 10%-40% below fair value from now until about 2022-2023. That's about how much time I think it will take before we'll have seen the majority of the FUD campaign to fall away. So, with the exception of some possible near term pressure if the general market selloff pulls us down further with its momentum, I think at $315 we are at about the bottom of TSLA's range (~40% below $530 fair value). I started adding trading shares at $351, but bought more aggressively from $330-$315.
anthonyj
Stonks
Elon will find a way to take it private soon. The FUD is really crazy. It’s taking a major toll on him (he gets fat when stressed lol)
I don't believe that, maybe if you had a strong tailwind, and/or getting solar heating during the day. From real logged data, only considering drives over 25 miles I see ~30% range loss 25-35F. At 0F, that's ~46% loss (preheated in garage), and at ~80F, only 2%.
If we consider snow on the ground, then ~45% range loss ~18F ~65miles, average speed 40mph, again preheated in garage. I guesstimated 20% of overall consumption went to cabin heating.
If starting cold, knock 5-10kWh off the top both for heating and higher internal cell resistance for the first 1-2 hours of driving.
EVNow
Well-Known Member
Tomorrow could be bad. Government shutdown looming and gen. Mattis is resigning.
But nasdaq future is only slightly down at 0.1%.
But nasdaq future is only slightly down at 0.1%.
Buckminster
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I was a bit low yesterday regarding SP, but spending time on the forum has perked me up. I am relatively bullish on Q4 but mostly focussed on Q1/S&P inclusion/getting a positive p/e ratio. However, when reading some of the recent Model Y posts I was reminded just what a big deal it will be - it is sneaking up on us. Elon has talked up the pickup recently but the Y is bound to be a game changer for several reasons (alien dreadnought, Flexi circuits, 3 rows in compact body, styling etc). Being a CUV at ~peak CUV sales helps too.. Just the announcement of the unveil in March (Feb announcement?) could affect SP (perhaps a teaser picture) - I will add to my list of milestones.
I was a bit low yesterday regarding SP, but spending time on the forum has perked me up. I am relatively bullish on Q4 but mostly focussed on Q1/S&P inclusion/getting a positive p/e ratio. However, when reading some of the recent Model Y posts I was reminded just what a big deal it will be - it is sneaking up on us. Elon has talked up the pickup recently but the Y is bound to be a game changer for several reasons (alien dreadnought, Flexi circuits, 3 rows in compact body, styling etc). Being a CUV at ~peak CUV sales helps too.. Just the announcement of the unveil in March (Feb announcement?) could affect SP (perhaps a teaser picture) - I will add to my list of milestones.
I guess you weren't here in Q3? The FUD is way down. I can't even remember a drop like this ever happening with so little FUD. Yeah, it is still in the feed, but it no longer dominates the news feed.
Carl Raymond
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Also worth getting excited about the megapack. TE can ramp faster than cars i feel.
Buckminster
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5 mins later:
Elon Musk on Twitter
We can add that to what mad skillz Elon has - master psychologist. I'm feeling on top of the world.
Proof that Elon reads this thread (maybe)...
5 mins later:
Elon Musk on Twitter
We can add that to what mad skillz Elon has - master psychologist. I'm feeling on top of the world.
To be honest the SP would be nearing $450 if the whole Funding Secured and his various twitter dramas (Pedo etc) hadn't happened. Maybe back to $370 with the bear market,
Folks need to be prepared that 2019 could be a write off in terms of the stock price. Could be another range year ($250-$370) until macros improve. I think the best position on this stock is long term, i.e. shares (unleveraged) or 2021 leaps.
(Not advice)
(Not advice)
Fun statistic:
3/4 th of the 9,000 Tesla drivers in the Netherlands did get a fine for violating speed limits this year. No other brand achieved that.
Tesla is the new Porsche....
Bleifuß-Alarm: Tesla ist das neue Porsche - electrive.net
P.S. ask yourself why this happened and we can talk about demand....
3/4 th of the 9,000 Tesla drivers in the Netherlands did get a fine for violating speed limits this year. No other brand achieved that.
Tesla is the new Porsche....
Bleifuß-Alarm: Tesla ist das neue Porsche - electrive.net
P.S. ask yourself why this happened and we can talk about demand....
Everybody talks about demand and delivery these days but all that matters is innovation.....
Studie: Tesla führt bei Batterie-Elektroautos mit Abstand > Teslamag.de
Elon MuskVerified account @elonmusk
Replying to @scottwww @Tesla
Pace of innovation is all that matters in the long run
11:25 AM - 26 Sep 2018
Elon Musk on Twitter
Studie: Tesla führt bei Batterie-Elektroautos mit Abstand > Teslamag.de
Elon MuskVerified account @elonmusk
Replying to @scottwww @Tesla
Pace of innovation is all that matters in the long run
11:25 AM - 26 Sep 2018
Elon Musk on Twitter
Nedermeyer book coming in 2019.
Also, he has just be nominated TheDrive senior editor of Mobility Technology. FUD is coming.
(BTW, I regret to find him obnoxious and malevolent on Tesla, but def more spot on the Boring Company and BFR).
Also, he has just be nominated TheDrive senior editor of Mobility Technology. FUD is coming.
(BTW, I regret to find him obnoxious and malevolent on Tesla, but def more spot on the Boring Company and BFR).
HG Wells
Martian Embassy
Would this affect the stock market ?
The situation inside the White House was dire Thursday night, the report said. A Republican close to the White House told the Post Trump was in “a tailspin,” acting “totally irrationally” and “flipping out.”
The situation inside the White House was dire Thursday night, the report said. A Republican close to the White House told the Post Trump was in “a tailspin,” acting “totally irrationally” and “flipping out.”
German survey about the 3s preferred configurations:
sample: +1000 people
LR AW P 10%
LR AW 33%
LR - 22%
MR - 33%
71% take AP!
Rumors are about 10 - 20 k reservation holders in Germany. A sample size of 1k is above 5% and therefore statistically relevant.
sample: +1000 people
LR AW P 10%
LR AW 33%
LR - 22%
MR - 33%
71% take AP!
Rumors are about 10 - 20 k reservation holders in Germany. A sample size of 1k is above 5% and therefore statistically relevant.
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I just looked at BMW 3-series sales numbers. Europe sales is 2x US, and China is 1.3x US.
That means Europe+China should give Tesla enough high ASP orders for the whole year 2019.
Europe:
(source: BMW 3-series European sales figures)
China:
(BMW 3-Series L China auto sales figures)
US:
(http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/bmw/bmw-3-series-4-series/bmw-3-series/)
That means Europe+China should give Tesla enough high ASP orders for the whole year 2019.
Europe:
(source: BMW 3-series European sales figures)
China:
(BMW 3-Series L China auto sales figures)
US:
(http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/bmw/bmw-3-series-4-series/bmw-3-series/)
Johann Koeber
Happy Owner
Owner in Germany: Got the invitation email. Configuration secured (all in, red/white).
Delivery is expected for Feb/March 2019.
Delivery is expected for Feb/March 2019.
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