Wiki UK and Ireland Supercharger Site News

[LampyDave]

Sadly the money-taking apparatus is in perfect working order. £0.42 per kwh off-peak.

 

[cezdoc]

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere, but Leigh Delamere Westbound appears to be going live which is great news. Covers have come off the chargers and as I type I'm getting about 90 kW from one of them. Not showing on the map yet so no automatic battery heating.
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By my reckoning this means for the first time there are now more V3 than V2 commissioned stalls in the UK:
Total UK V2 stalls: 524 (57 + 6* sites)
Total UK V3 stalls: 533 (47 + 6* sites)
Grand total: 1057 stalls
*6 sites have both V2 and V3, grand total 110 sites.

 

[Mrbrock]

A jump in output voltage to 900/1000 VDC would give a proportional increase in output power without having to change the conductor cross section to the posts as the amperage wouldn’t need to increase - if anything it could go down, depending on the power output at the higher voltages.

Of course sticking to 500V means realistically upping the conductor size or adding more if they want more power out.

It just becomes a case of diminishing returns.

They can up voltage but no current Tesla can take advantage and why would they allow 500kw charging for another brand before allowing that for Tesla?

-H would just be another iteration of the same cabinet. It’s not fundamentally any different to the -D revision I snapped. Perhaps a very minor increase in rated AC input power. Barely 10% different. All other key details are the same. Most importantly the output power of the unit is exactly the same.

In other words it’s the same box, just a bit newer.

Some folks are clutching at straws here.

Exactly. The only difference would be the wiring to the posts which would be 475A vs 350A. 35% increase or about 350kw (if 259 is wire limited), same top end as other operators.

 

[Sean.]

They can up voltage but no current Tesla can take advantage and why would they allow 500kw charging for another brand before allowing that for Tesla?

Yes the “why would Tesla do this” from a commercial / strategic point of view is not the same question.

Purely from an engineering / techical perspective beyond a certain point the only feasible way to deliver more power is to increase the voltage to minimise (I squared R power) losses.

 

[francis247uk]

Post on LinkedIn today that more Tesla chargers opening up, wonder if UK will be next...

 

[qwickshot]

Probably when the MSA’s get their collective acts together interns of non-tesla provision on the main motorway network.

It’s worth remembering that Europe’s network is generally far less busy than the U.K.’s because the non-tesla provision is leaps and bounds better. Particularly in places like the Netherlands and Belgium.

 

[LFletcher23]

Does anyone know what happened to the Guildford supercharger and when it will re-open?
Was working for just over a month, but has been offline for just over a week now.

 

[Derek25]

They can up voltage but no current Tesla can take advantage and why would they allow 500kw charging for another brand before allowing that for Tesla?

Yes the “why would Tesla do this” from a commercial / strategic point of view is not the same question.

Purely from an engineering / techical perspective beyond a certain point the only feasible way to deliver more power is to increase the voltage to minimise (I squared R power) losses.

They can up voltage but no current Tesla can take advantage and why would they allow 500kw charging for another brand before allowing that for Tesla?


Exactly. The only difference would be the wiring to the posts which would be 475A vs 350A. 35% increase or about 350kw (if 259 is wire limited), same top end as other operators.

Probably when the MSA’s get their collective acts together interns of non-tesla provision on the main motorway network.

It’s worth remembering that Europe’s network is generally far less busy than the U.K.’s because the non-tesla provision is leaps and bounds better. Particularly in places like the Netherlands and Belgium.

Not only the non-Tesla provision. There are generally more and bigger Tesla supercharger stations across Western Europe.

 

[roadcred]

Europe can easily supply the necessary power wherever they want. They are not stuck with the stupid National Grid /DNO system.

 

[yessuz]

well it is not a SC but still a rapid charging...

EuroGarages group (EG group) has new 4 x 150 kw CCS installed at Ashby-de-la-Zouch on M42. Located on the side of petrol station, which I suppose will be the trend for next few years
Interestingly, they are showing charge price on the large display, like regular petrol garages. rfid card or contactless payment method

 

[Sean.]

I went to the competition today to check them out. New Fastned multi 300kW unit site opened in Martlesham up the road from me at the park and ride.

As I wrote over at SpeakEV, I do like the drive through bay at the end. Handy on the occasions I’m towing and need a fill.

 

[thax1]

I’ve been looking at those two photos of the Fastned at Martlesham for about 5 mins now, and I’m still not sure which bay is for which charger From the charger-head numbers it looks like max capacity is 6 vehicles?
Not an issue for @Sean. as he’s the only car there, but I’m picturing it in the dark with various manufacturers cars waiting in both directions…

 

[Sean.]

I’ve been looking at those two photos of the Fastned at Martlesham for about 5 mins now, and I’m still not sure which bay is for which charger From the charger-head numbers it looks like max capacity is 6 vehicles?
Not an issue for @Sean. as he’s the only car there, but I’m picturing it in the dark with various manufacturers cars waiting in both directions…

In all the bays you can pull in whichever orientation works best for your charge port location.

There’s a total of 6 available connections (each Alpitronic supports 2 simultaneous CCS2 connections or 1 CCS2 + a Chad connection).

The Fastned CCS cables are quite long and they are suspended from articulated arms which you can swing out and around from the ‘front’ to the ‘back’ of the unit quite easily.

There’s little chance of blocking (unless they’re ICE’d) and enough space for waiting if needed.

 

[Mrbrock]

In all the bays you can pull in whichever orientation works best for your charge port location.

There’s a total of 6 available connections (each Alpitronic supports 2 simultaneous CCS2 connections or 1 CCS2 + a Chad connection).

The Fastned CCS cables are quite long and they are suspended from articulated arms which you can swing out and around from the ‘front’ to the ‘back’ of the unit quite easily.

There’s little chance of blocking (unless they’re ICE’d) and enough space for waiting if needed.

So both spots next to the pull through could be filled and charging and the pull thru would be sol?

And they painted their logo on 12 spots but can only charge 6 vehicles?

 

[Sean.]

So both spots next to the pull through could be filled and charging and the pull thru would be sol?

And they painted their logo on 12 spots but can only charge 6 vehicles?

There are plinths to add additional chargers in the middle bays.

 

[m3gt2]

well it is not a SC but still a rapid charging...

EuroGarages group (EG group) has new 4 x 150 kw CCS installed at Ashby-de-la-Zouch on M42. Located on the side of petrol station, which I suppose will be the trend for next few years
Interestingly, they are showing charge price on the large display, like regular petrol garages. rfid card or contactless payment method

Out of interest, do you use Elli and if so did you manage to get these to work? I had no joy with the app or rfid card, that was my first and only time trying to use Elli on anything other than Ionity, which works perfectly (though still not as seamless as Superchargers!)

 

[qwickshot]

Perhaps we need a ‘not superchargers news thread’?

Back to topic, Northampton is now open at the service centre.

 

[cezdoc]

Heston Eastbound now live. A successful charge was reported on the Superchargers App this morning.

 

[cezdoc]

Northampton Service Centre Supercharger also went live yesterday!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1638584118475628544

 

[yessuz]

Out of interest, do you use Elli and if so did you manage to get these to work? I had no joy with the app or rfid card, that was my first and only time trying to use Elli on anything other than Ionity, which works perfectly (though still not as seamless as Superchargers!)

no, not really - I have octopus universe or whatever it's called but never used it once...

since these have contactless payments, I think for odd one-off charge that would be ok..