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I wonder how this is coming on. Does anyone have any news about Tamworth?I just went via Tamworth Services yesterday.
In tesla page it shows that SC is due in Q4 2023.
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No other activity apart of dug up parking is visible and there is Moto services sign about "EV charging hub coming"
No it’s not open.Anyone know if the Sheffield site is open yet? The one at Meadowhall retail park
The photo below is from the Superchargers app, confirming a supercharger expansion at the Gretna Green Welcome Break services is underway. The associated comment says 10 stall bases but I count at least 11 plus four charger cabinet bases hinting at 16 V4 if the existing 4 V2 stalls are replaced (the photo on the app is higher resolution; the existing stall on the left is 2B).Notwithstanding the planning application for Gretna Caledonia Park, the photo in this TOUK tweet shows the groundwork at Gretna services with a G4E van in the background, so it does seem plausible that both sites could be getting Superchargers.
went near 2 weeks ago - no movement at all.I wonder how this is coming on. Does anyone have any news about Tamworth?
South Mimms 18 V3 via Stu (they still on this forum?)
There are reports of activity at a few other Welcome Break services: South Mimms ("+18"), Hopwood Park plus Newport Pagnell mentioned just above. Abington is another possibility although it seems nothing has yet materialised after its recent lengthy closure. I haven't yet come across any photos showing, e.g., new supercharger stall foundations to confirm construction/indicate size of expansion at any of these sites.
From the photos in the Twitter thread it looks to me like 6 charger cabinets and 24 square ponies (for V3 stalls as identified by Stu). There are what look like 9 identical prefab concrete cabinet bases though.see post #6804 on this thread for South Mimms (linked above)
I spoke with a Tesla supercharger engineer at Woodall service station he said that his colleages are currently working on the sheffield meadowhall retail park superchargers and they could up and running within the next couple of weeksNo it’s not open.
I've been reading up on Superchargers recently, and a lot of articles are stating that Tesla are focusing on upgrading older versions to V4, with the intention of existing sites being opened to other EVs once they are running V4 chargers.I had a spare hour today and went for a tour of the future Manchester sites. Birch services eastbound still sat there with 12 v3 waiting further work, presumably the incoming supply, and Birch westbound also with 12 v3 in the same state - the one nearest the new gridserve chargers (still fenced off but with some signs of power to them) is still damaged.
White City retail park is very similar, 14 v3 sitting there waiting for something to happen.
Much better progress at Ashton New Road/Rowsley Street - 12 v4 now in place, progress with the service centre and offices, big sign on the corner of the site is in place. I'll attach a few photos. Label on the cabinet cover read "Manchester North HQ".
I wonder how they can get such discounted prices for electricity.I've been reading up on Superchargers recently, and a lot of articles are stating that Tesla are focusing on upgrading older versions to V4, with the intention of existing sites being opened to other EVs once they are running V4 chargers.
The V4s do seems a good design for other EVs, with their longer charge cable, and many being centred to the bay, hopefully as they rollout more the issues with other EVs straddling multiple bays will ease a little, and a lot have been spotted with card readers so that makes the experience a bit easier too, as it means non-Tesla's will not need to download the app and register etc.
On another note, I was watching a YouTube video recently where What Car tested BYD, Tesla, and VW against one another. The first charge was at a supercharger open to all brands of EV - I was really surprised at the pricing for Non-Tesla as it is going to drive traffic to the supercharger massively. In the video the Non-Tesla Supercharging was 51p/kWh vs Tesla at 44p/kWh. The other chargers later in the video were 87p/kWh. I can't help but feel that this level of discount is going to cause massive queues, and then the Tesla's end up being forced to go to the non-Tesla chargers and pay the more extortionate rate, or will be sat for an eternity waiting for a charger.
Video for Ref, in case you are interested:
Tesla make more chargers than anyone else in the world, better designed, standardised for each version/connector market. They cost 30% or less of other chargers, so cap ex is lower. Op Ex is lower due to reliability, own servicing staff, few models, high use/better monitoring to know when to fix, better run etc.I believe it’s only existing open v3 chargers which are currently planned to be upgraded to V4, which makes sense if you think about it as they’ll have to upgrade them to take contactless payment by the end of the year to remain open.
I expect existing V2/3 sites will close to the public if they are not updated in time.
I would disagree regarding better designed. part. cables are still too short.Tesla make more chargers than anyone else in the world, better designed, standardised for each version/connector market. They cost 30% or less of other chargers, so cap ex is lower. Op Ex is lower due to reliability, own servicing staff, few models, high use/better monitoring to know when to fix, better run etc.
Lower CapEx and more usage means lower investment per-kWh served. Also, depends on time of day, cheap rates at different times.
All this vs low usage unreliable slow chargers from rivals. Pity
@Oxid8ter was talking about non-Teslas using Superchargers.I would disagree regarding better designed. part. cables are still too short.
Lifton will be an good test of this. Its not just that the newly upgraded superchargers are cheaper in Lifton. There are very few Rapid chargers around Launceston at all. All the others are max 50kw (and 79p+) . I imagine that come the Spring/summer that on certain days there will be huge demand and there is no space in that carpark to queue. I think it's going to be total carnage. Its the first one they have opened up where I have thought this is going to be interesting....I've been reading up on Superchargers recently, and a lot of articles are stating that Tesla are focusing on upgrading older versions to V4, with the intention of existing sites being opened to other EVs once they are running V4 chargers.
The V4s do seems a good design for other EVs, with their longer charge cable, and many being centred to the bay, hopefully as they rollout more the issues with other EVs straddling multiple bays will ease a little, and a lot have been spotted with card readers so that makes the experience a bit easier too, as it means non-Tesla's will not need to download the app and register etc.
On another note, I was watching a YouTube video recently where What Car tested BYD, Tesla, and VW against one another. The first charge was at a supercharger open to all brands of EV - I was really surprised at the pricing for Non-Tesla as it is going to drive traffic to the supercharger massively. In the video the Non-Tesla Supercharging was 51p/kWh vs Tesla at 44p/kWh. The other chargers later in the video were 87p/kWh. I can't help but feel that this level of discount is going to cause massive queues, and then the Tesla's end up being forced to go to the non-Tesla chargers and pay the more extortionate rate, or will be sat for an eternity waiting for a charger.
Video for Ref, in case you are interested: