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UK FSD Discussion
- Thread starter Buckminster
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Just coming to this topic fresh as a newbie maybe looking for my first electric car as my employer now offers salary sacrifice scheme with the tax incentives
Honestly, I think youāve got to be mad to be buying the Tesla FSD add on now. Tesla Iām sure will improve on EAP over the next 5 years but I reckon proper FSD as Elon dreams it is 2-3 decades away in the UK and will almost certainly need government support and infrastructure changes. Cloud cuckoo land, lots of hot air but weāre still a million miles from anything workable and safe.
Honestly, I think youāve got to be mad to be buying the Tesla FSD add on now. Tesla Iām sure will improve on EAP over the next 5 years but I reckon proper FSD as Elon dreams it is 2-3 decades away in the UK and will almost certainly need government support and infrastructure changes. Cloud cuckoo land, lots of hot air but weāre still a million miles from anything workable and safe.
JupiterMan
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Its happening.
We can debate whether it will be HW3 or HW4 or HW5, we can debate when local laws will allow it, but on the evidence of it we now see in the USA, and recent rates of progress,.... I would think 2-3 decade timeframe is a long way off.
I would wager that in the world somewhere, Tesla will have autonomous cars by 2026 at the latest.
in the UK the Automated Vehicles Bill is actually going through parliament right now, and will likely receive royal ascent in this session of parliament. sure still some political boxes to tick, but even the legal bit is happening along with the technological bit.
What exactly do you mean by āautonomous carsā? Cars that can achieve Level 5 autonomy without any restrictions such as geofencing? Cars that, as the Musk keeps promising, donāt need pedals or a steering wheel? Thereās no way weāll see that anywhere in 2026 or for a long time after.
For all the hype even FSD in the US is just a Level 2 driver assist system.
Oh I didn't realise they'd started with the Germans. Clearly my 20 - 50 years is inaccurate, be more like 100 years if they have convince the Germans to allow it onto their roads.
I don't think they've started work on Fully Self Roadblocking Supervised so it won't be ready for that market yetAs long as we can all agree that FSD Supervised should be introduced into France first
It is very impressive but the jump to removing the steering wheel completely is a big jump. Have to agree that's a good ways off.
Also how many people will be happy to jump into a car with no driver or steering wheel as a taxi. We cannot have Self flying planes or even Self driving trains because it makes people uncomfortable. It'll take a while for people to come around and that will take even longer if they get in and it doesn't drive pretty much perfectly.
I guess if it comes to LHD Europe, should be no reason a RHD taken over there wouldnāt then be able to use FSD youād assume? Unless they donāt push the software or just wonāt allow it for RHD cars anyway.
Something tells me RHD wonāt be coming soon. Be along the same timeline we get RHD Model S / X.
Something tells me RHD wonāt be coming soon. Be along the same timeline we get RHD Model S / X.
If it comes to France....Iāll drive up to England to test it
goRt
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The EAP code base that we run on has indeed been abandoned multiple years ago, but that in NA has the occupancy network etc. (originally called Tesla vision)
You only have to watch highway driving clips on YouTube to see the massive changes
Remember FSD is just driving on city streets
I think at some point, long before FSD hits our roads they'll bring us some of the FSD stack for motorway autopilot.
Staying ahead of their competitors in this space is important and while none yet have something like FSD, many have an as good or even better autopilot equivalent. Most won't pay for FSD and in the UK it does nothing anyway so Tesla will just be deemed to have worse cruise control than other brands.
I'd like to see them match Bluecruise or maybe beat it. Auto lane change with no input and hands off with eye tracking only. I don't think they've truly mastered their eye tracking from the interior camera but they are working on it. They have to have that tech for new cars now anyway for other safety reasons.
