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v11 software update SUCKS
- Thread starter Lynne Therriau
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They tested this in cars for one day:
I bet someone just went out to the parking lot and made sure most of the buttons work.
No, I'm still on V10, pre-2021.44.25. I'd like to stay that way until it's too difficult, or until I decide the heat pump fix is more important than dealing with all the newly-hidden controls.
Tapping the battery icon was a shortcut to the charging screen in V10, apparently that still works in V11. Yours sounds like a more complex problem though.
There is no prompt. The software is already downloaded now, waiting for installation. I have the alarm clock icon at top of nav screen that only allows me to Install Now or schedule a later time. I'll keep pushing the time to 23 hours from now until I find another way to stop it installing, or just give up and let it go ahead.just ignore the prompt. it will automatically go away when you switch to drive.
that's what i did with theholiday update of 2020 until i took my car in for service and they updated the OS despite me asking them to leave it alone.
finman100
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If you keep v10, I'll buy your car. only half-kidding but that's how this shitshow of an update is going...
Hank42
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I never thought of that - why is the GUI and the Internal "make stuff go" code in separate releases?
smogne41
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smogne41
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...sorry guys. Those of you who though this would be sorted in a few updates might be in for a serious let-down 
Any Required Human User Input is an Error for the Tesla Self-Driving Autopilot | NextBigFuture.com
Elon Musk views any human user intervention is an error situation for the Tesla Autopilot. Elon means that whenever a human has to take control from the Tesla
www.nextbigfuture.com
He’s been saying this since 2019. I doubt he’ll change his mind.
The problem with this viewpoint is that it assumes Tesla programmers have the knowledge/experience/skill to faultlessly code all the instructions required for safe vehicle operation in every possible situation. I intentionally didn't say "foreseeable" because unforeseen situations arise every day and the human brain has to find a way to deal with them. Elon loves to aim high, but I'd say his target is unachievable even with AI (which also has to be programmed by humans). In the meantime, Tesla buyers are held hostage to a philosophy that they may not fully support and over which they have zero control or input.Any Required Human User Input is an Error for the Tesla Self-Driving Autopilot | NextBigFuture.com
Elon Musk views any human user intervention is an error situation for the Tesla Autopilot. Elon means that whenever a human has to take control from the Tesla
He’s been saying this since 2019. I doubt he’ll change his mind.
If they can't make windshield wipers or climate controls operate adequately in automatic mode, how can they possibly take responsibility for all driving functions away from the driver?
Yea I don’t disagree with you. We’re in a weird transition period. I’ll probably stay with Tesla during this transition period because this approach doesn’t really bother me. But I understand if people decide to leave Tesla as a customer
smogne41
Active Member
Yes, it is a demonstrably idiotic stance to take, but this is the hill he has decided to die on. At this point I don't even care about Tesla any more, they have done their job of pushing the industry to electric. I just wish he did not have the power to trash all of OUR cars in the process...
smogne41
Active Member
At this point I say everybody who is unhappy with this to file NHTSA complaints. And also generate as much bad press as you can in the media, if you have any power to do so. This is pure insanity...
It's absolute garbage. And as some have stated, actually dangerous.
Beyond that my cruise control and self driving never work anymore. It's gotten so much worse over the last 2 years.
edit: I only have like 9k miles but found myself perusing other EV options the other day before I even knew what was happening. The fast and loose approach is wearing thin.
Beyond that my cruise control and self driving never work anymore. It's gotten so much worse over the last 2 years.
edit: I only have like 9k miles but found myself perusing other EV options the other day before I even knew what was happening. The fast and loose approach is wearing thin.
linux-works
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this software was translated from a yet-unwritten bit of software, that was found embedded on an uncooked russian sock.That’s right you know. The software is written by neural networks trained to know what we really want. So in some ways complaining now is like arguing with yourself.
linux-works
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UI implementer 1: "hey, lets optimize the UI. lets group some things together so that its 2-tier or more to get there."
UI implementer 2: "but, uhm, dont we have 1920 pixels across on this big screen? why are you taking things away?"
[...crickets...]
that kind of sums it up. they have more space than god, himself, on that screen, and yet they take things AWAY.
children are running the show. no other explanation, either literal or figurative.
go ahead and move to texas. maybe it will help. I doubt it, but anything they do could only help, at this point, they need to fire the whole UI group and rehire new ones. not kidding.
UI implementer 2: "but, uhm, dont we have 1920 pixels across on this big screen? why are you taking things away?"
[...crickets...]
that kind of sums it up. they have more space than god, himself, on that screen, and yet they take things AWAY.
children are running the show. no other explanation, either literal or figurative.
go ahead and move to texas. maybe it will help. I doubt it, but anything they do could only help, at this point, they need to fire the whole UI group and rehire new ones. not kidding.
Msjulie
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Well maybe it is time to sell my car since King Elon seems to know how it should behave always! Grr
More AI will be implemented into the cars. If you don’t like that I’d move on too
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