Yes. The reading issue has been covered multiple times. Electricfan says he will continue to read when he wants to but at same time is upset about Tesla releasing autopilot saying you must be attentive at all times saying it isn't safe.
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Yes. The reading issue has been covered multiple times. Electricfan says he will continue to read when he wants to but at same time is upset about Tesla releasing autopilot saying you must be attentive at all times saying it isn't safe.
How can anybody think releasing a feature that might malfunction and kill someone is reasonable or socially acceptable? Like calling it "Beta" makes that ok? Really?
I've listened again, with ear phones, on high volume and can't hear any beeps...
And I am amazed that you are shocked, "...shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!"* (Gambling with people's lives, apparently.)Well, I'm really upset that Tesla released autopilot in such a poor state. I am honestly shocked its so bad. But maybe I'm crazy.
I'm wondering if the white/black stripes had something to do with it, and caused AP to get confused about the lanes, as ankitmishra suggested above. You can see in the video the car did drift to the left right before it dove to the right.
The pickup truck has running boards and a stylized groove along the bottom of the doors. Perhaps AutoSteer picked up on those cues and interpreted those as lane markings?
As to why the ultrasonic sensors didn't pick up the truck - I don't believe the range on the ultrasonic sensors is long enough to be of much use with the closing speed in the video. Where you took over control is probably at the limits of the useful range of the ultrasonic sensors.
So now you have concluded that Tesla's AP is dangerous, after repeatedly acknowledging that you have used it on public roads while completely ignoring Tesla's instructions and deliberately ignoring the road around you by reading a book while the car drove itself.
That is what shocks me.
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I don't know what my allegedly inappropriate use of AP has to do with Tesla releasing what they released.
I don't know what my allegedly inappropriate use of AP has to do with Tesla releasing what they released.
Anyway, I contacted Tesla service this morning and ask them to look at my car. They responded and are pulling the log files. I'll report if they find anything interesting.
One update - this morning as I was driving in on Beltway 8, the car just decided to drive on the shoulder for a while, all by itself. I'll post the video, although its not as exciting as the near-miss with the truck.
For the record, since everybody seems to get so heated up on the subject, I no longer read while on AP. The car used to work better - the incidents with the truck and the shoulder-cruising this morning are new, at least for me. But while its messed up I obviously don't trust it. AP isn't helping me at all right now - its much more stressful to use it than not.
Which means I wasted a lot of money upgrading my 2013 to a 2015, which might make some people on here happy, based on some of the unfriendly posts I've seen.
@ElectricFan
What is that bump sound at 0:05? Car swerved immediately after that sound.
"more logical" -- you state that while quoting him where he clearly still believes reading was "appropriate use of AP" since he states "allegedly inappropriate use of AP". I'm looking forward to using AP but following Tesla VERY clear instructions on how to use it. Hands on wheel and you are responsible for the vehicles driving. Every odd scenario needs to be reported but none from looking at the logs timestamps based on an ambulance report documented time for the non-Tesla driver and their family/friends ... if you know what I mean.I've seen a huge change in your posts since this thread started on Jan 13. It's only been three weeks but your posts have become more logical and more willing to consider the other side of the conversation.I don't know what my allegedly inappropriate use of AP has to do with Tesla releasing what they released.
I have glitches every single day in my car from calendar not working, radio stuck on certain channels to screen blanking out randomly, f'ing navigation system taking 30-60 seconds to tell me where the heck I am, map half full of grid, no streets, I can go on and on. For anyone to think or say like the Tesla service apparently did here, that autopilot is 'flawless' is complete bs. It is not a good system-yet. Don't trust it, but you can use it as long as you keep hands on wheel and foot ready to brake. Funny that other scenarios seem to tell a story that the car will absolutely brake to the point of skid to avoid a collision...my opinion after reading this is that the autopilot probably failed to do its "intended" job which is to monitor everything around it and react for you. But, it is still in beta and can't be trusted.
I've been in HOV lane going along just fine in AP and when there is an 'exit' from the HOV and no more stripe on the right side, the car jerks violently to the right even thought the left stripe continues just as it had been...huge problem...don't trust it.
I have glitches every single day in my car from calendar not working, radio stuck on certain channels to screen blanking out randomly,...
Playing armchair engineer...there are other possibilities. I'm sure the data show AEB suddenly kicked in at 40 MPH due to the rapidly decreasing distance between you and the car in front. However, there are alternate possibilities as to why TACC saw that.
Imagine this scenario:
- You are Car T moving 60 MPH, Car B is directly in front of you moving 60 MPH, Car C is directly in front of her, slowing down from 60 MPH to come to a stop up ahead.
- Car B sees Car C slowing down, and moves to the right lane to pass Car C, slowing down to 50 MPH, then 40 MPH.
- Car T is tracking Car B as she moves right and slows. Car T slows as well. Car B is moving faster than Car C.
- Car B passes Car C, which is now moving 20 MPH. Car T moving 40 MPH (because it was tracking Car B) switches to track Car C.
- Car C is moving significantly slower than Car T.
- Car T applies AEB as it calculates Car C is in collision path.
I'm guessing the data Tesla sees is that the tracked car suddenly slowed, thus AEB was applied. What it probably doesn't show is that Mobileye just switched which car it was tracking, which I've seen occur quite often when using the Mobileye based ACC in the BMW. I use ACC almost every day, even though every day does something "wrong" at least once, and I need to correct it. It's still a useful feature that I prefer over regular cruise control.
So have that drink, but mull over the possibility you may not be as wrong as you think.