-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
What happened to the FSD option????
- Thread starter VT_EE
- Start date
- Status
diamond.g
Active Member
Elon tweeted that it was causing too much confusion. Off menu option till gone next week.
EricUSC
Member
How do you order FSD "off menu" and is it still $3k? Do you have to go into a store or call them after placing an order?
diamond.g
Active Member
Fantastic question. I think you have to call and ask, assuming that it is still 3k for the time being.
Also assuming that when FSD comes back it will be more expensive.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
They probably realized that all proposed FSD "features" were too dangerous and that true FSD is many years away.
Guessing that AP 3.0 hardware isn’t far away and they’ll just build the cost into the car when the time comes. Takes the heat off of them and reduces their exposure on upgrading existing cars for free.
Not only can you no longer order it, but I paid for it and it no longer shows up in my account. I was looking at it earlier this afternoon and it was there, but now it is not.
This was vaporware from the start and now with the onset of winter and dryer air, it's just vanished like any other cloud.
As for the prepaid option, Tesla will deliver exactly what they would have before they removed it.
As for the prepaid option, Tesla will deliver exactly what they would have before they removed it.
So what is FSD really in the end?
Incremental EAP...
I don't understand why people think FSD has to be binary for $3,000. It either takes you coast to coast while sleeping or nothing?
How much is THAT actually worth? 1 or 2 more zeros.
Tesla has been very explicit in their marketing of FSD. Coast to coast is what they have been selling. It might be worth $30,000 but Tesla already sold it to tens of thousands of customers at a price tag of $3,000. If Tesla cannot deliver something soon its a big problem.
Daniel in SD
(supervised)
They haven't even driven coast to coast yet in a test car and that's the easy part! It only has to go 3000 miles, possibly with multiple attempts, on mostly interstate. Now imagine how much harder it is to drive in Seattle traffic with crap roads, rain, ice storms, cars, pedestrians, scooters, and bicyclists for a million miles. It's great that Elon Musk is an optimist but they're going to need a huge breakthrough to make it happen.
Confusion as people who ordered full self driving were mistakenly thinking they would get self driving car?
Confusion as in if one was to get EAP what does FSD do? OA: Nothing. It does nothing. It helps Tesla prosper. Took them 2 years to realize this. Maybe Model s/x owners were less confused? Who knows.
I think it is treated as a liability, like outstanding employee vacation.
Accounting gets a lot cleaner if there are fewer outstanding liabilities.
It also puts the car into employee price ranges while the Federal incentive is still in place.
steilkurve
Member
My theory on the business case. Just like the expensive roadster led to the less expensive S that eventually led to the less expensive 3 (refuse to use the word cheap), the EAP will get cheaper over time as the FSD gets more realistic. There is no cost, or at least minimal, to Tesla for the EAP so all of that money could be bankrolling the FSD research. I would bet that the masses are not willing to pay $5K (~14% of the cheapest expected car price) for this option. Plus as FSD gets to be more of a reality they will charge more for something that actually works. That's when the EAP will switch in price with the FSD and the EAP will be a couple thousand where as the FSD will become much more expensive. They would have to charge more for the FSD because people could loan out there car and make some real money so it would be worth much more. All that to say i am hoping to snag up EAP in a couple years for a grand or two.
diamond.g
Active Member
I think it's just a headache at this point.
Things aren't moving as fast as he predicted.
People who have bought it are complaining that it's wasted money.
I expect most buyers are now skipping it.
Tesla doesn't really know whether it can achieve it and how much retrofitting would cost in the end.
Not offering it allows them to optimize production for now without consideration for retrofitting.
Things aren't moving as fast as he predicted.
People who have bought it are complaining that it's wasted money.
I expect most buyers are now skipping it.
Tesla doesn't really know whether it can achieve it and how much retrofitting would cost in the end.
Not offering it allows them to optimize production for now without consideration for retrofitting.
Or maybe as the updated 3.0 hardware is becoming a reality they don’t want to keep selling the package that requires them to upgrade older AP 2 / 2.5 computers.
I paid for FSD so curious to see how it plays out when AP 3 is released.
I paid for FSD so curious to see how it plays out when AP 3 is released.
Thats what I was thinking why pre-plan for expensive free upgrade while at the same time sell the option at a reduced price.
- Status
Similar threads
