I apologize if this question seem ignorant. I am new to the Tesla family and to this forum. I'd always wondered why a company as technical as Tesla don't simply provide front and rear dash cams as factory standard or options? Thanks for the education.
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Or maybe just allow to record the vehicle cameras' imagery? There's already 8 cameras on the car, might as well just tap into those instead of adding two more..
There's also jurisdiction-to-jurisdiction legal concerns about dashcams, particularly if the recording happens on private property, or there are children being recorded. Plus, some drivers do not want dashcam footage because it could potentially be self-incriminating and not everyone desires full honesty in such situations.
Tesla has limited bandwidth and that's not one of the priorities. It wouldn't even make the top 100.
Definitely can't be cost issues. And anyone not wishing to record can simply turn off the feature, like bluetooth or wifi on a phone.
I agree with the legal concerns. That seems most plausible. No car makers seem to provide this relatively simple technology. Then why are aftermarket cams exempt?
I agree with the legal concerns. That seems most plausible. No car makers seem to provide this relatively simple technology. Then why are aftermarket cams exempt?
Aftermarket cameras aren't exempt, but it's up to the person who buys and installs the after market camera to ensure that they comply with all the legal requirements that apply to them. Just because a dashcam is not legal in one location doesn't meant that it can't be sold anywhere.
SabrToothSqrl
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the Corvette has a factory dash cam.
All the Tesla would need is a SD slot, and leverage the existing dozen cameras...
All the Tesla would need is a SD slot, and leverage the existing dozen cameras...
Existing cameras are kind of low-res and also Black and White (except the backup camera which IS color, but the use is kind of limited due to the angle).
On a tesla dashcam I would not settle for anything less than 4K
I'll ask the same question, where is it that a video camera installed on a car illegal?
Austria and Luxembourg for one. I am sure there are more places.
See e.g. https://www.quora.com/Some-sources-...Which-disadvantages-does-such-a-decision-have
I did a quick search before I installed my dashcam and from what I could see, in the US at least, it's legal to record video anywhere... there is no expectation of privacy on public roads in the US. However, recording audio was a bit more complicated and there are some states (including florida, where I am) where they recommend that you do not enable the mic and record audio audio as it could be illegal. I don't know about other countries.
Much of Europe, I believe. Some private installations, some government installations.
so your initial comment was incorrect, video cameras are not illegal but the voice recording the camera makes could be illegal.
Ok, the only time that would come into play is if you are having a conversation with someone outside of the vehicle. and in some places that could be illegal but AFAIK there aren't penalties unless you try to use the recordings for nefarious purposed or if you tried to use the recording in a legal matter it could be ruled inadmissible as evidence.
wk057 found several seconds of "video" crash reports on AP1 cars he salvaged. I put that in quotes because its low resolution, low frame rate - likely because of the limited bandwidth from the Mobileye chip to the main computers. It's not obvious where the buffer it lives in is located pre-crash.
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what the law is in europe is mostly irrelevant. this isn't posted in a euro centric forum
as for wk findings, interesting I wonder if that data makes it to the mothership
Yes it might (not sure if automatically, but they can certainly fetch it manually at will and store basically forever).
