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Tesla expands Magic Dock Superchargers for non-Tesla electric cars in the US
Tesla has made another rare expansion of its Magic Dock Superchargers for non-Tesla electric cars in North America. Over the...
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magic docks?
What about those people who don’t have privilege to charge at home or at work?Ridiculous is all the people that live locally relying on supercharging instead of at home or work charging. Those are the people causing supercharger backups. The supercharger network was supposed to ease long distance travel, not to replace home/work charging.
Don’t buy an EV yetWhat about those people who don’t have privilege to charge at home or at work?
It isn't a privilege. Its something they need to take a little personal responsibility and do. They can pay a little money and install charging or move to someplace where they can. Granted, the cheaper the place they live, probably the more they'll have to spend to put it in. That's what they get for saving the money on rent/purchase.What about those people who don’t have privilege to charge at home or at work?
It's not a privelege. It's the fruits of our labor. Most of us busted our butts in school to get a job where we busted our butts to earn money for a house, a car, and a charger. If you're not there yet then keep working at it, but please don't dismiss the efforts of others.What about those people who don’t have privilege to charge at home or at work?
Lots of people bust their butts and have no option for setting up charging where they park.It's not a privelege. It's the fruits of our labor. Most of us busted our butts in school to get a job where we busted our butts to earn money for a house, a car, and a charger. If you're not there yet then keep working at it, but please don't dismiss the efforts of others.
I have FUSC but still prefer home charging for daily use.Charger congestion is also Tesla’s fault selling cars with *insert period of time* FUSC. We all thought that was over and then it keeps happening. Wonder how many cars they sell in Q4 or at the end of any quarter with FUSC perk kicked in…it has to be a lot
But we have plenty in STL - it’s almost never an issue here. We also now have magic docks within easy non-Tesla highway range in a couple directions from here. I’m sure those will be super congested for the foreseeable future until NACS to CCS adapter compatibility becomes well supported
The Urban Chargers mentioned above and destination chargers are meant for that application. That said, in other countries, it is more common for people to not have home nor work charging and the people use superchargers and other public charging exclusively for charging. They however tend to find other less expensive slower public charging when that is possible.What about those people who don’t have privilege to charge at home or at work?
I’d drive 10 miles round trip to charge at a super charger if I could do my shopping I needed to do while it charged. Super charging prices would likely negate some/most/all cost savings versus gas but if you are buying a new car the tax credit can’t be ignored. In congested areas with air quality issues I could see charging subsidiesDon’t buy an EV yet
I would too - but I'm not an uber driverI have FUSC but still prefer home charging for daily use.
Supposedly FUSC is not to be used for taxi/Uber drivers and I’ve heard Tesla will disable that perk if they find out.I would too - but I'm not an uber driver
The (poorly named) Inflation Reduction Act goes much further than this. There are massive incentives for people to install chargers. One goal is to have at least 4 charger stalls for every 50 miles of highway.I definitely think the current situation of chargers being unavailable at homes for many people (e.g. apartments and condos) is a problem that needs to be fixed. As a broad generalization, I like that we have federal laws saying that you cannot prevent somebody from putting up a satellite dish, and I think we need something similar for EVSE equipment and the electricity to feed them.
Out of Spec says over and over again that while the NACS connector is far superior to the clunky CCS handle with a handle, it's not the reason for the higher reliability of the Tesla charging network. I heard recently that the Tesla chargers may not be inherently more robust but they have a great system for monitoring their chargers and fixing them quickly when they stop working.The best thing about all these EV charging infrastructure expansions is that we can be pretty confident they will all work just fine with the NACS sockets in our cars.![]()
Just a small point, the IRA does not have incentives for installing chargers. That is the NEVI portion of the BIL, Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, that has plans to install 4 chargers every 50 miles on the highway.The (poorly named) Inflation Reduction Act goes much further than this. There are massive incentives for people to install chargers. One goal is to have at least 4 charger stalls for every 50 miles of highway.
This is the big issue. The non-NACS companies are a bunch of grant writers who are professionals at begging for handouts but can't actually do anything.chargers may not be inherently more robust but they have a great system for monitoring their chargers and fixing them quickly when they stop working