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Winter wheels/tires packages for Model S

Discussion in 'Model S: Driving Dynamics' started by mlascano, Aug 6, 2012.

  1. clea

    clea Member

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    Thanks, that is good to know ... hopefully, if they deliver it at the beginning of the window in February and i need winter tires mounted, the montreal service center will be open by then and this will be a simple process, whether i go with the Pirellis (assuming availability by then) or the Hakkepelittas. It's nice to know i will have the choice when the time comes.
     
  2. jbherman

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    Panicking (a little)...I signed my paperwork 5 days ago and was just notified that my car would be delivered before the end of December (window of 12/15-12/31). I ordered the 21" wheels and thought I wouldn't be taking delivery until late February or March. I was planning on addressing the winter wheel issue over spring/summer (for next year). I live in the Kansas City area. We usually don't have terrible winters (1 or 2 major snows, a few light snows, and some ice), but I don't think I'll be able to make it through on the performance wheels. The winter wheel package is sold out (as you all know). I called the nearest service center and it doesn't sound like they will be available any time soon (if at all this winter). The waiting list, according to the service rep, is "everybody!" I know there have been some suggestions regarding off brand solutions (not thrilled about that). I'm curious if anyone has actually installed non-Tesla winter wheels/tires and if anyone has any strong recommendations as I scramble to get everything in order.
     
  3. jerry33

    jerry33 S85 - VIN:P05130 - 3/2/13

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    Tesla told me TPMS are $120 each, so $480 for the set.
     
  5. ChadS

    ChadS Petroleum is for sissies

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    Whoa, really? They told me 48.97 each, roughly $196 for the set. Odd.
     
  6. jbherman

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    Thanks Jerry. I did see that recommendation. My question was meant to be: Has anyone installed and driven on this alternative winter wheel option and, if so, are you happy with them? Are there any other recommendations (assuming there are no 245/35R21 winter tires out there, as I haven't found any)? I'm not a handy "car guy," so forgive my limited understanding.
     
  7. zax123

    zax123 CDN Model S P308

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    @clea -

    I think you'll probably get the car before March 15th no? They are going to be done all CDN sigs by end of December. Then let's say Canadian cars are produced at a rate of one-tenth the rate of US cars. You are general production 98, so 980 US cars are "before" you. 980 is not even three weeks of production... I'd estimate you'd be getting your car more like beginning of February.

    If and when you do find a 19" winter solution, I'd really like to know what it is. I'm going to get my car with the 21" gray wheels (Performance), so I need to find a good 19" wheel/tire package. Tire Rack has some options which come to quite a bit cheaper than the TM options, but there are no TPMS sensors and the offset isn't quite right.

    Thanks!

    Robert
     
  8. clea

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    No probs, when/if i need to deal with this issue i will be sure to let you know the solution i come up with.
     
  9. jhs_7645

    jhs_7645 VIN: #3305

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    I don't know how much help this is going to be for folks but I just received a phone call from somebody on the Ownership Experience team. They told me that the issue with the 19" wheels is getting *very* high priority attention at Tesla right now. Meetings are happening, etc... etc... Sounded like they are going to prioritize regions that are the worst off wrt weather. I know they can't produce them out of thin air, but it's nice to know they are doing their level best to get us our tires/wheels.
     
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    I look forward to hearing reports back from people like Cottonwood and others who deal with slippery uphills this time year forward. It is a particularly difficult time in New England choosing tires. Should I keep my solid Michelin all seasons on or switch to my studded Nokians. We are supposed to get a couple inches of snow and slush followed by freezing rain and rain and then will probably have dry roads all within the same week. Each set of tires does significantly better than the other depending on the condition, but none bridges all these conditions satisfactorily.
     
  12. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

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    FWIW, no issues driving on the all-seasons in the light snow/wintry mix conditions over the weekend. Saw two cars flipped on I-95, though.
     
  13. Per O

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    Unfortunately, that will never happen :mad:
    Problem is that the tires have R speed rating 170km/h=106mph
    And the Model S performance max speed is 130mph, so you need H (130) or V (149) rating
     
  14. Al Sherman

    Al Sherman It's about THIS car.

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    Jerry, What say you? I got the impression from this thread that the Hakka R's seem to be the most highly recommended. Is the R speed rating a safety issue?
     
  15. mnx

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    I've put 160km/h rated winter tires on my BMW. I just have to be careful to not go over 160km/h (which isn't that hard)... Of course a manufacturer will never use lower speed rated tires on their car than what the car is capable of.

     
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    jkirkebo Model S P85+ VIN 14420 EU

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    Do you have different rules in the US ? Here in Europe we do not need to follow the speed rating for winter tires or all-season tires. Only summer tires need the correct rating. The reason for this is that high speed rated winter tires are much worse on snow&ice than lower speed rated tires. Most winter tires here have a Q rating (160km/h).
     
  17. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    I would think driving over 100mph in winter here in US would be a bad idea so would rather have better traction at road legal speeds in that case then. The Nokian R tires look good.
     
  18. Per O

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    Let me clarify. I was merely stating that i don't think Tesla will sell R rated tires. However, Tesla is selling the Nokian Hakkapeliitta 7 which has a T rating (118mph). Still that is less that the MS performance 130mph max speed
    So you could be correct, that it is legal to sell winter tires with lower speed rating
     
  19. Jeeps17

    Jeeps17 Cath Jockey in a P85

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    I understand that because of this Tesla may never offer these tires in their package, which is too bad...

    Driving faster that 170 km/h in winter (up here anyway) is borderline suicidal.

    I'll take another look at the Pirelli's they offer, and may switch to Hakkas when those are worn, or just get the rims, TPMS and Hakka R separately (with the potential added cost and hassle to get them installed properly).
     
  20. Al Sherman

    Al Sherman It's about THIS car.

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    I think I'm gonna go with the RIAL 19" turbines that NJS found, with the Happa R's for Winter. UNLESS, lots of the smart people who are really smart on wheels and tires tell me not to for safety reasons. I can't honestly remember the last time I drove over 85mph. In Winter probably never except on a pretty fast snowmobile.
     

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