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The next to last row should be labeled 2016 Results.
This is the same number as October although fewer S and more X.InsideEV numbers so far
Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard
Usually how close are these numbers for the USA?
So exactly when does this forum become 'Tesla Club'?
Utterly off-topic but need to name drop here. Harold Laski is my great-great-uncle! A very interesting man, even if he is responsible for this train-wreck of a sentence, as picked up by Orwell in his essay 'Politics And the English Language':
I am not, indeed, sure whether it is not true to say that the Milton who once seemed not unlike a seventeenth-century Shelley had not become, out of an experience ever more bitter in each year, more alien [sic] to the founder of that Jesuit sect which nothing could induce him to tolerate.
IIHS just masssively raised their headlight standards and IIRC nearly all headlights rate Poor now.Structure is fine as proved by real world results. With that said, it's rather surprising that IIHS has rated LED headlight Poor.
Yeah, looks like they just used new weight standards. This one's effectively bogus (though I'm sure Tesla will strengthen the roof to pass the new standard for advertising reasons). The only way the weight of the battery at the bottom of the car could affect the roof integrity is if the car flipped over, which has proven to be impossible in testing.Same article also mentions that P100D was rated Acceptable for roof integrity due to increased weight of the battery (I'm not clear if they tested the roof - sounds like they just plugged new weight numbers into their formula).
Two electric cars miss IIHS awards
I've been thinking about the boldfaced bit thereI think more likely that this was just their first chance since the merger. It has only been a month. Think youre being overly optimistic. TE is going to be a big part of Tesla, but I dont think it will today. SCTY was worth 1/10th what tesla was when it took over. If it contributes much this Q Ill be quite surprised. I mean, it may push Tesla earning positive but much more than that I think is a long long shot.
At an ASP of $400/kwh and 50% margins (WAG), that's about $24 million.
Usually how close are these numbers for the USA?
The "press" reporting on the IIHS tests are rather aggravating. Multiple sources claim that Tesla "failed" a test that they got an acceptable rating on, others "fall short" or "lose". They did indeed fall short... of a perfect score. It is rather sad to see such biased reporting. BMW got painted by the same brush. The IIHS themselves used a much more correct "Two electric cars miss IIHS awards" and CBC did well with "Tesla Model S scores well in crash safety tests but falls short of top standard". The bias written into headlines and articles even with a direct factual original source is incredible.
The first rule of Tesla Club is...So exactly when does this forum become 'Tesla Club'?
The only way the weight of the battery at the bottom of the car could affect the roof integrity is if the car flipped over, which has proven to be impossible in testing.
I see! The only one ever.
Oh come on. No. TE has no independent fixed costs; they're all subsumed in Tesla's general fixed costs via economies of scale.With just 120MWh to amortize fixed costs, TE margins are likely negative at this point.
Oh come on. No. TE has no independent fixed costs; they're all subsumed in Tesla's general fixed costs via economies of scale.
Don't do stupid accounting.
TE has some independent R&D costs which probably got expensed a long time ago.
TE has some independent capital costs (tooling) but those are capitalized.
TE has installation costs (variable, and I'm accounting for them), inverter costs (variable, and I'm accounting for them), and battery pack costs (variable, and I'm accounting for them).
The cells are produced at the same factory as the car batteries on the same production lines. The packs are produced at the same factory on automated production lines. The cases are going to be ordered from a supplier, entirely variable costs. Packing the packs in the boxes is variable costs too.
What fixed costs? One overseer for the pack assembly, maybe $100K/year? A salesman? An engineer?
Any fixed costs specific to Tesla Energy were probably being incurred already in Q3, *and as such are irrelevant to my calculation*. Only an INCREASE in fixed costs would prevent Tesla Energy from generating incremental profits.
Amortization is a useful accounting tool for some purposes. Not this one. Don't abuse it.