I am very, very roughly guessing -- based on guesses regarding staffing counts and salaries -- that a service center costs $1 - $2 million per year to operate, before any income from it. (One-time capital costs are unimportant.) Disregard any income because so much of it is warranty work. Tesla needs to build quite a lot -- a couple of hundred in the US -- but there is a finite limit to how many they need to have -- once they have sufficient geographic coverage in an area, I believe they can stop.
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Waiting4M3
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Ford, GM, Toyota each have a few thousand dealerships in the US. A couple hundred sounds a little low for Tesla for the long term, maybe OK for M3 in 2018, but may need more when MY hits and they get to millions of cars by 2020.
Runarbt
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Waiting4M3
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Naturally, by definition 1/2 of the people are dumber than your average person, who is not so bright to start with.
DurandalAI
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Look at the long term, and look at the beautiful sunset. I’m not too concerned where TSLA is today, because I’m confident that this time next year, our new floor will be $400, with us yammering about when $500 will be the new ATH.Why does TSLA always tank over the holiday weeks and ruin our good holidays?. I'm just bitter because I made a big purchase this past Friday near recent highs. Money was there the previous Friday with TSLA in the 310's, but I wasn't notified the transfer into my account had been completed. So waited all week for a pullback, then bought in at the top. Gotta love it. Long-term, not a big deal. Just frustrating right now.
Edit: Maybe the pullback is this week so we can go up the week of Christmas?
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3Victoria
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Not by their accounting ... 80% of people think they are smarter than the average (bear).
larmor
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This is not some half baked company...
OK, bored at work, only Norway stats to save me from brain-death. Here's a little graph I made, which shows some interesting stuff: 2x deliveries this year compared with any previous, Model S deliveries this year greater than S+X last year, Model X deliveries 1000 more than Model S in 2017...
And still counting
And still counting
That actually is possible, for 80% of people being smarter than the average TSLA bear
That's not a very high bar to pass...
Now, if you take the average TSLA bull, thats a different question
bdy0627
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Thanks for the graph. That's quite amazing growth. What is the EV incentive in Norway? Is it the same for purchasers of the S vs X?OK, bored at work, only Norway stats to save me from brain-death. Here's a little graph I made, which shows some interesting stuff: 2x deliveries this year compared with any previous, Model S deliveries this year greater than S+X last year, Model X deliveries 1000 more than Model S in 2017...
And still counting
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More good news, so expect to test 320 today
Tesla (TSLA) tops owner satisfaction survey in auto industry again
Yikes, no idea - I’m English, living in Belgium, married to a Dane
Tesla (TSLA) tops owner satisfaction survey in auto industry again
Yikes, no idea - I’m English, living in Belgium, married to a Dane
I read the model rankings. Bull news: Model S tops costumer satisfaction. Bear news: a Prius gets a better owner satisfaction score than a Tesla. (The Prius beat the Model X)More good news, so expect to test 320 today
Tesla (TSLA) tops owner satisfaction survey in auto industry again
Yikes, no idea - I’m English, living in Belgium, married to a Dane
Was there any difference in Gov incentives in those years?OK, bored at work, only Norway stats to save me from brain-death. Here's a little graph I made, which shows some interesting stuff: 2x deliveries this year compared with any previous, Model S deliveries this year greater than S+X last year, Model X deliveries 1000 more than Model S in 2017...
And still counting
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Looks to me like bull news and bull news and more bull news:
Top rated car for owner satisfaction: Model S
Top rated SUV for owner satisfaction: Model X
Both Tesla vehicles in the Top 10 for most satisfied customers.
Top rated brand for owner satisfaction.
10 Most Satisfying Cars
More good news, so expect to test 320 today
Tesla (TSLA) tops owner satisfaction survey in auto industry again
Yikes, no idea - I’m English, living in Belgium, married to a Dane
I hope no good news about M3 otherwise we could even test 300...
JRP3
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Wasn't he referring to the S and X, and didn't he say "probably"? I never took it to mean they would never do a larger pack. He was likely just trying to prevent premature Osborning.
"Tesla is doomed, they have dropped in satisfaction rating from last year."More good news, so expect to test 320 today
Tesla (TSLA) tops owner satisfaction survey in auto industry again
Same. We all knew the semi was coming and nobody thought it would have a 100K pack, so it was obvious that something larger would eventually happen.
Looks to me like bull news and bull news and more bull news:
Top rated car for owner satisfaction: Model S
Top rated SUV for owner satisfaction: Model X
Both Tesla vehicles in the Top 10 for most satisfied customers.
Top rated brand for owner satisfaction.
10 Most Satisfying Cars
It is a very nice showing.
It would be nice if it shows up in the financial media at some point, but, not sure if this is going to happen.
Mike Smith
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Two hours ago Yahoo ran another story on Jim Chanos thinking tsla is worthless. Nothing about them having the highest customer satisfaction rating. I guess customer satisfaction isn't that important at Yahoo.
Maybe this will give us a boost though:
2018 Predictions: Apple Buys Tesla -- Cook Retires -- Musk Takes The Reins
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