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2019.40.50 Release Notes
- Thread starter DrDabbles
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Neat! Any update on how HW 3 retrofits for HW 2.5 users are coming along? I heard this news was released awhile back, but the retrofits themselves haven’t been put into motion by service centersYou only need HW3 for the FSD visualizations, the rest you'll still get.
I saw on Twitter that they're aiming to start the retrofits at the start of the new year. Until now, there was no major differences in the software that would require the newer hardware.
Would have been good for them to update people before releasing something that requires the new hardware though...
Cheburashka
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I saw on Twitter that they're aiming to start the retrofits at the start of the new year. Until now, there was no major differences in the software that would require the newer hardware.
Would have been good for them to update people before releasing something that requires the new hardware though...
It doesn't require new hardware. Tesla just turned visualizations off for AP2+.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
Do you have any evidence of that?
Elon specifically said that the FSD sneak preview would only be for AP3. We don't know if it is because Tesla simply turned it off for AP2 or if the visualizations are not physically possible on AP2. It is probably logical to assume that the visualizations are only for AP3 because Tesla is now using the AP3 specific NN. But we don't know for sure. In any case, we should avoid giving people false hope by implying that maybe Tesla will turn the visualizations on for AP2 when we don't know that.
Cheburashka
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scottf200
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Another owner mentioned they tried all the reboot options but when they did the 'Power off' from the service screen that is the one that allowed the navigate voice commands to work. Not sure on what 'subsystems' are affected by each type of reboot. AFAIK, 'Power off' should be done and you should wait 1-2 minutes while in the seat before you press the brake. Perhaps a myth but I'd wait at least 10 seconds the old let the capacitors drain idea.
diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
So why would Tesla just decide to turn it off for AP2 and AP2.5? If it works for non AP3, why not let them get the FSD preview?
There is software that Telsa has optimized for AP3. That is what I meant by AP3 NN.
Cheburashka
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diplomat33
Average guy who loves autonomous vehicles
The fact that Tesla is only enabling the new FSD visualizations on AP3 AND the fact that Elon has said that the software has not diverged yet but will diverge in Q1 when they do the AP3 upgrades are pretty indicators that we are pretty close to that point.
Remember that "hacking" the software to make it show the visualizations on AP2.5 doesn't really mean anything. It just means that the person is really good at going into the software and making it do something that Tesla did not enable it to do. The fact that Tesla is not enabling the visualizations for AP2 and AP2.5 is quite telling IMO.
Cheburashka
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Yes, it's telling that they are trying to sell more "FSD" upgrades.
jebinc
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jebinc
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It is often reported, that the car sometimes needs to enter "sleep" mode, before all features function as they should.
I don't think it's available in the UK yet. The controlls are now active via the app but it simply says summon not available in this location. See pictures below
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AdamMacDon
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I saw that a lot driving in Germany and the Netherlands, but there were still stop signs there. I wonder if it recognizes yield signs and how well it handles roundabouts in FSD, if at all yet. I tried on the one roundabout we have here and it tried to go straight through it haha.Yep! Most intersections are replaced by roundabouts in Europe in general. You don't really stop much here.
This update just bricked my car, been installing for 1.25 hours
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