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  1. Phlier

    Phlier Bluebird

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    The day that the software is complete is the day the software is complete. Being angry, happy, or indifferent will not change that date. At all.

    There will always be bugs to be angry with.

    There will always be progress to be happy with.

    But the software will be done on the day it is done, regardless of what your mood along the way is. You are powerless to affect it.

    The only thing you have the ability to change is your attitude along the journey. Nothing else.
     
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  2. ChrML

    ChrML Member

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    This is standard practice in DevOps.

    We do it too at work whenever we have large rewrites/changes of modules. We look at all the changes done, then look for bits and pieces that can be moved up to earlier releases. This will "eat up" lines of code and untested code from the big change. We try to get it as small as possible to reduce risk (bonus is we get to test the bits & pieces released earlier in production too).

    Maybe sign recognition was just so separate that it could be backported like this.
     
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  3. Cheburashka

    Cheburashka Active Member

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    Looks like it was pulled from wide release.
     
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  4. powertoold

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    It doesn't work that way for NNs though. If you watch Karpathy's talks about their hydranet, you'd see why a foundational rewrite can't be implemented in bits and pieces. Once they change the core NN, it's essentially the rewrite.
     
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  5. ChrML

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    Yes, however the interfaces around it is implemented by standard code. NN's as of now only do some very specific tasks that are hard to code manually, and most of the driving policy is still standard code (unless something has significantly changed after the latest rewrite).

    For some changes it can be hard, but for standard code we are often able to merge 50-70% of the rewritten code and test that in production before the actual release that triggered the need for that rewrite.
     
  6. powertoold

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    My interpretation is that the foundational rewrite mostly involves the NNs, in particular the hydranet and how the car interprets the world. Elon talks about the car seeing in 4D and having to rewrite their labeling software for full 4D. I'd think code like NoA when to change lanes to exit would stay the same.
     
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  7. scottf200

    scottf200 Active Member

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    TeslaFI data. 32.5 seems to be going pretty strong tho.

    [​IMG]
     
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  8. powertoold

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    Not surprising they pulled 36, seemed a bit unpolished for me.
     
  9. DBeckwith

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    I'm loading 2020.36 now, so rumors of its death seem premature.
     
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  10. DrtyJrze

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    I received 36 today as well.
     
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  11. MorrisonHiker

    MorrisonHiker S 100D 2020.48.35.5

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    I think the floodgates have opened. We just got notifications on 3 vehicles.
     
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  12. TheLocNar

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    I’m installing it now. Heh
     
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  13. Jamison

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    30%...
     
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  14. CYBER_Y

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    downloading now. Not too happy about the car jamming on the brakes at every off ramp but we'll see.
     
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  15. Hi I’m Isaac

    Hi I’m Isaac New Member

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    Any HW2.5 folks get a download yet?
     
  16. HighZ

    HighZ MDNT SLV M3

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    They had to leave those bugs in, otherwise what would 2020.36.1 fix?

     
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  17. AlexParker

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    My wife's car just 2020.32.3 last night…she always seems to getting them a week or two behind.
     
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  18. Webeevdrivers

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    Kinda wondering if we’ll get visualization back. No bikes. No pedestrians. 32.3. Weird. Everything functions fine other than that.
     
  19. hybridbear

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    Any word on cars with the FSD computer & MCU1 with 2020.36 yet to know how they’ll work & what they’ll display?
     
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  20. Kangojack

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    Downloading 2020.36 now Brisbane Australia 2019 Model 3 with FSD.
    Hope the reading of Speed limits is an option here. Sometimes we have to wait a few months for features to roll out.
     

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