Thanks for sharing. I have similar results from my charging history, so it's good to see it from others as well.
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3 LR RWD - 325 mile Test
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You get much more consistent data from TeslaFi than I do. This is from my LR AWD recently:
3/3: 29.53 kWh added, 38% gain - 77.7 kWh
3/3: 36.48 kWh added, 48% gain - 76.9 kWh
3/5: 18.09 kWh added, 26% gain - 69.6 kWh
3/6: 17.99 kWh added, 27% gain - 66.6 kWh
updated from 2019.5.4 to .5.15
3/11: 34.21 kWh added, 44% gain - 77.8 kWh
3/12: 19.03 kWh added, 25% gain - 76.1 kWh
3/13: 22.86 kWh added, 31% gain - 73.7 kWh
I'm not sure what would cause the discrepancy on a few of these, but it's worth pointing out that the max before and after this latest update was about 77-78 kWh. This is consistent with theory that the AWD cars always had that usable quantity and the RWD cars are only getting it now.
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SunCharged
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I just got off of a web chat with Tesla asking why I saw no bump in range. The rep told me that not all Model 3 vehicles received this with 2019.5.15 and that another update would be sent out that would open the additional range. Maybe that is why it wasn’t in the release notes?
SageBrush
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This is not proof, it can be the car staying internally consistent with more stated miles per full battery.
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From the beginning, 310 miles was not a realistic number for the AWD 3s. It could be that the AWD cars also got the range(capacity) bump, allowing AWD 3s to get closer to the stated 310 mile range? And Tesla is choosing not to boast about it. Probably unlikely, but just a thought.
So in summary the LR now get access to all their battery, whereas AWD have had that all along. The limiter on LR was to soften the marketing blow of a cheaper car going further than the more expensive ones. But now that game is over. Both versions of the car have about 77 kw capacity. Have I got it right?
The theory is wrong. I just completed my test drive and the 100% - 0% capacity appears to be...72.3kWh...exactly the same (+/- error margin) from what I got last August.
I drove 327.1 miles on 68.69kWh (car UI) non-stop in 6 hours 9 minutes at 55 mph in 32 degree weather with the heat off (seat heater on high the whole time).
I began with a 100% charge which indicated as 325 miles and ended with 5% charge which indicated 16 miles.
When I stopped I was showing 327.1 miles at 210Wh/mi which comes out to the 68.69kWh capacity. Dividing that by .95 (how much battery I used) comes out to 72.3kWh if I took it down to 0%.
In order to get rated range (325 miles) it appears that you have to do 222Wh/mi. I believe all they did was change the rated miles constant...unless they found efficiencies in the inverter or other hardware.
The 100% range under these conditions (210Wh/mi) comes out to 344 miles.
Here are some relevant pictures:
Starting Charge
Starting range in-car
222Wh/mi is exactly rated range - 75 miles driven, battery is down to 250 miles (started at 325).
My half-way turn around point in Cape Girardeau!!
Cutting it close to the supercharger!
The final verdict
TeslaFi is reporting the drive differently and shows 201Wh/mi and 65.62kWh consumed...not sure why there is such a big difference.
I drove 327.1 miles on 68.69kWh (car UI) non-stop in 6 hours 9 minutes at 55 mph in 32 degree weather with the heat off (seat heater on high the whole time).
I began with a 100% charge which indicated as 325 miles and ended with 5% charge which indicated 16 miles.
When I stopped I was showing 327.1 miles at 210Wh/mi which comes out to the 68.69kWh capacity. Dividing that by .95 (how much battery I used) comes out to 72.3kWh if I took it down to 0%.
In order to get rated range (325 miles) it appears that you have to do 222Wh/mi. I believe all they did was change the rated miles constant...unless they found efficiencies in the inverter or other hardware.
The 100% range under these conditions (210Wh/mi) comes out to 344 miles.
Here are some relevant pictures:
Starting Charge
Starting range in-car
222Wh/mi is exactly rated range - 75 miles driven, battery is down to 250 miles (started at 325).
My half-way turn around point in Cape Girardeau!!
Cutting it close to the supercharger!
The final verdict
TeslaFi is reporting the drive differently and shows 201Wh/mi and 65.62kWh consumed...not sure why there is such a big difference.
6 Hours 9 Minutes. TeslaFi didn't pick up the first part because it was during the sleep hours that I have set up. It didn't start the timer until I checked the site.
LR RWD here, early 50XX build, about 13 months old but only 7K miles so far. Eerily consistent capacity estimate by TeslaFi around 309-310 during the past year, after 5.15 update, we only gained a bit to 313 mi. All home charging, usually we run between 20-80% SOC.
Using the method above:
- 2/19/2018: 25.2 kwh added, 34 percent gained - 74.12 kwh
- 2/26/2018: 40.2 kwh added, 52 percent gained - 77.3 kwh
- 3/01/2018: 46.7 kwh added, 64 percent gained - 72.9 kwh
- 3/4/2018: 34.1 kwh added, 46 percent gained - 74.13 kwh
- 5/06/2018: 41.5 kwh added, 56 percent gained - 74.11 kwh
- 5/13/2018: 42.1 kwh added, 57 percent gained - 73.85 kwh
- 5/20/2018: 32.1 kwh added, 43 percent gained - 74.6 kwh
- 3/03/2019: 22.79 kwh added, 31 percent gained - 73.5 kwh
- 3/09/2019: 29.04 kwh added, 40 percent gained - 72.6 kwh
- 3/10/2019: 18.7 kwh added, 25 percent gained - 74.8 kwh
- upgraded to 5.15 f5def7e firmware
- 3/12/2019: 18.22 kwh added, 25 percent gained - 72.88 kwh
EDIT: Also, when looking at drive summaries, TeslaFi is still using 220-221 wh/mi when reporting battery usage vs rated miles used, both before and after the 5.15 update. I'm assuming TeslaFi is getting both values from the car itself.
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Impressive range at 55mph at that temp! 25-50F all trip? On Model S it is possible to drive several km below 0% battery, some has managed up to 20km. If you had a tow truck on standby, finding out how much below zero you could go would be interessting. Another thing I wonder about is if new FW was supposed to gain access to SW-locked capasity or if it did something to the motorprogrogramming etc and improved range by decreasing consumption?
Thanks! I thought so too! I didn't run the cabin heater which helped a lot.
The whole point of my test was to determine if they unlocked capacity. My conclusion is that they did not.
Sometimes yes, but not always. You can also run out of energy with a few miles still on the range meter....
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