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Class 2B-3 for the CT, gross weight 8500-10000 lbs.
Above the EU limit for car driving license "B" , max 3,5 Ton. 7700 lbs.
In EU would require a truck driving license "C1" that very few have, it's a professional driving license.
OK, EU is not intended for such a large vehicle, but anyway, pity....
Depending on the country’s laws, the vehicle may need to be derated. In other words the maximum cargo specification has to be lowered so that it is under the limit, even though the vehicle could do more.This varies from country to country, but commercial driving licenses are typically only required if the gross weight of the truck exceeds a certain limit, or if dimensions are too big.
Driving a Cybertuck, without exceeding the load limits your driving license allows, will most likely be perfectly legal almost everywhere.
Gross vehicle weight is fully loaded.
They're talking about both Class 2b and 3.Indeed:
Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Vehicle Weight Classes & Categories
"The vehicle weight classes are defined by FHWA and are used consistently throughout the industry. These classes, 1-8, are based on gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), the maximum weight of the vehicle, as specified by the manufacturer. GVWR includes total vehicle weight plus fluids, passengers, and cargo"
Just subtracting payload alone reduces the possible range of empty masses to 5000-6500 lbs (2,27-2,95t). Subtract maybe 1300lbs / 600kg more max for passengers. (3700-4300lbs / 1,68-1,95t)
Indeed:
Alternative Fuels Data Center: Maps and Data - Vehicle Weight Classes & Categories
"The vehicle weight classes are defined by FHWA and are used consistently throughout the industry. These classes, 1-8, are based on gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR), the maximum weight of the vehicle, as specified by the manufacturer. GVWR includes total vehicle weight plus fluids, passengers, and cargo"
Just subtracting payload alone reduces the possible range of empty masses to 5000-6500 lbs (2,27-2,95t). Subtract maybe 1300lbs / 600kg more max for passengers. (3700-4300lbs / 1,68-1,95t)
Elon stated the CT would weigh near a F150. Its looking that will not even be close. Even for the base models. C&D speculated a 5 ton curb weight, and its looking like they guessed right.
In fact, it is what you have to refer to:
"the standard driving licence class B has a maximum mass limit of 3.5 t for passenger cars, motor caravans and vehicle-caravan-combinations."
You seem to be out of date: google "Metal foam stainless steel armor"
Metal foam stops .50 caliber rounds as well as steel -- at less than half the weight
or watch this 10 min video: "America's Next Tank Would Be Protected by 'Steel Foam'"
US Military Generation:
"Researchers have discovered that composite metal foam offers greater protection than traditional armor steel plate at a third of the weight. The discovery has broad implications for armored vehicles, and could result in stronger, lighter vehicles better able to protect occupants from the impact of kinetic weapons, explosive shockwaves, and fires."
The United States' Next Tank Could Be Protected by 'Steel Foam' | Popular Mechanics
Metal foam is also a good thermal insulator and a radiation shield. Sound useful on Mars? That's the motivation. Elon's playing 4D chess here, while we're playing with last Century's ideas.
Now having read/seen all that, anyone care to speculate that Tesla becomes the Prime Contractor for the U.S.A.'s next generation of AFVs?
Motor vehicles up to 3.5t (3500 kg) gross weight and maximum 9 seats including driver.
A holder of class B license can draw the following trailers with his/her car:
- Trailers up to 750 kg gross weight,
- Trailers over 750 kg of permissible maximum weight, provided the total weight of towing vehicle and trailer is not greater than 3500 kg.
Minimum age required: 18 years (17 years for participants in the "Accompanied driving with 17" (BF 17)).77
Driving a van
You can drive a van up to 3,500kg if you have a standard car driving licence.
Weight limits and loading
Your van has a maximum it’s allowed to weigh when loaded. This is called the ‘design gross weight’, which you can find on your van’s vehicle identification number (VIN) plate.
It’s sometimes known as the ‘gross vehicle weight’ or ‘laden weight’, but means the same thing.
What the weight limit includes
It’s the maximum the van is allowed to weigh, including the weight of the:
- van
- driver and passengers
- fuel
- load
With the debut of the CT, it ended the plethora of bad Tesla renders for the most part. But this render of a Cyber Sedan is believable, and who knows may be on someone's CAD in Hawthorne along with a Cyber SUV.
Tesla Model S Cybersedan Is What Happens If We Cyber All The Things
I actually think this thing would sell.
Stock thread, so SP at present 361.71
Don't understand your point.You're merging two entirely different sections of that webpage and treating them as the same thing. You can drive any van so long as you're not carrying a weight that puts it in excess of 3500kg.
Okay, can you just accept what has been pointed out already (that Tesla will likely derate the cybertruck in some markets) and let it be. You misstated the vehicles weight to try and make a point, you were wrong, but it did point out the weight capacity rating for different markets. So an inadvertent win.Don't understand your point.
The maximum gross weight that your allowed to drive with the EU driving license "B", is 3500 gross weight.
The gross weight is written on the car's paper, it's a fixed value, and says if you can drive that vehicle upon your license.
It indicate a legal potentiality for the vehicle, that can be fullfilled at any time.
Or do you think police starts to count people on board and weighg what you have in the boot?