"Since we decided to remove radar, we had to rewrite some codes. This will cause about 1 to 2 years delay for FSD, but we think it is a small price to pay for the reduced weight."
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Almost ready with FSD Beta V9
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Would sound totally legit in Elon-terms. He would say 6 months though, and it would take actually 4 years until they make a breakthrough and put the radar back.
you do know which forum you're posting in right? Facts like that have no place for some folks.Yes. That has been there since October 2016... Autopilot - https://web.archive.org/web/20161107160623/https://www.tesla.com/autopilot
Actually, looking at that, "Tesla Vision" has been defined on there since 2016 as well (5 years and people all of a sudden want to claim there's a re-branding)
This is THE place for inventing your own feature, creating a new expectation based on that feature you just invented then being angry when the shipped product doesn't meet your own, unrealistic expectation. (HUD anyone??)
rxlawdude
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That was not clear at all. Anyway, as these are described as components of FSD, it's unlikely any of these would replace the term FSD. I'm optimistic Tesla will deliver, eventually.
On a long enough hypothetical timeline, I am highly confident that Tesla will eventually deliver L4 general FSD.
I'm less confident that any statistically significant portion of Tesla vehicles currently on the road will still be in the hands of their original buyers when that happens.
mikes_fsd
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Sorry, instead of editing my original reply, I replied to it, quoting myself. That is probably why it came across unclear.
I honestly bet that vision-only can't tell these aren't tunnels, or at best gets confused most of the time. Radar & Lidar would say "Wall" from any distance or approach angle.
thats why you use maps aswell.
Knightshade
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Me too. But if I can actually use the time of the journey productively, instead of wasting it on "driving" then I'm WAY WAY WAY ahead of where we are today even if the trip takes a few minutes longer because it's doing the speed limit.
35 productive minutes in the car driving itself is vastly superior to 30 wasted minutes manually driving and unable to do anything useful.
Silicon Desert
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What? I'm having a really hard time imagining that a standard camera can determine light speed. Maybe I am misunderstanding your comment.
Silicon Desert
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yes, I had jiggling, wiggling, and spinning cars for 18 months, and not long after it was fixed, now I have jiggling and wiggling lines. It's distracting.
Also pretty sure this sort of actually dangerous "art" is very short lived. I could imagine something like this confusing a human driver too...
Soda Popinski
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I'm pretty sure I've seen roadrunners enter those tunnels without a problem. The trick is to meep-meep first.
In all seriously, I would think pseudo-Lidar would be able to tell via parallax it's a solid wall...maybe.
mtndrew1
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yes, I had jiggling, wiggling, and spinning cars for 18 months, and not long after it was fixed, now I have jiggling and wiggling lines. It's distracting.
I kind of miss when the cars would spin around and slam into one another on the display. The good old days.
mikes_fsd
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and busses "giving birth" to sedans, etc, can't forget those gems either...
Nowadays, I am very impressed with how well the repeater and b-pillar cams pickup traffic correctly and are able to perform lane changes way more human like... progress is definitely happening all around.
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Depth percepting cameras would know. For example cameras that use PDAF for depth perception.I honestly bet that vision-only can't tell these aren't tunnels, or at best gets confused most of the time. Radar & Lidar would say "Wall" from any distance or approach angle.
A couple of links after googling the subject:
Sony sells PDAF depth percepting image sensors for a few dollars in large quantities.
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Silicon Desert
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Well I admit that when I first heard of FSD from a friend years ago taking me for a drive in his car, I just assumed it meant "Functions Some Days". Yea, kind of a joke, but the way it was bouncing the car all over the road, that is what I was thinking. Fortunately it has gotten better, but I still want more
mikes_fsd
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for sure! can't wait for wide release myself!I still want more
way too damn long.
Silicon Desert
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yeah, I am now thinking I want that Back to the Future Delorean so I can go forward in time to when Tesla finally has FSD FULLY released. Hmmm, will that be the year 2021 or the year 2121.
Silicon Desert
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ha ha ha, good one. Yes, but I think I saw Wyle Coyote hit the wall when he tried it.
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