Hey Johnny, I think it was your suggestion on an old thread that gave me the idea. Thank you.Can confirm. I've ordered from them a couple times, and been satisfied in all cases. It's nice to be able to buy just what I need.
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Hey Johnny, I think it was your suggestion on an old thread that gave me the idea. Thank you.Can confirm. I've ordered from them a couple times, and been satisfied in all cases. It's nice to be able to buy just what I need.
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Heh, I don't even remember that, but glad it helped!Hey Johnny, I think it was your suggestion on an old thread that gave me the idea. Thank you.
Walking around Home Depot, I wouldn't be surprised to hear how thieves stole a homes 2x4s and plywood and left the copper!Yup - why do you think thieves steal copper? It’s a commodity so the prices will be high pretty much wherever you look.
I tried that once but when I tried to melt down the 2x4s they just got all red and then all black and turned into ashes. Weird.Walking around Home Depot, I wouldn't be surprised to hear how thieves stole a homes 2x4s and plywood and left the copper!
Hey I had an observation that I thought was interesting on this subject, though I'm not out to trigger anybody - just an observation.
My installation is indeed a Romex 6/3, 60 amp breaker, Tesla V3 charger. After I found this thread, I set the limit on the car to 44 amp, which is 80% of the 55 amps that Romex 6/3 is rated for. Frankly, any difference in charge time between 44 amps and 48 amps has been irrelevant to me.
The observation is that whether this charging system is running 44 amps or running 48 amps as it was before, the 18 foot charging cord supplied by Tesla feels warmer to the touch than the Romex 6/3 does. I've sampled both in several places. Is it not appropriate to take from this observation that the Tesla cord is more of a limiting factor than the house wire? Anyway, I'm not advocating for anything, I just thought it was interesting.
Agreed - the environment around the wire (open air vs in an insulated wall) can make s big difference in how hot the wire and insulation gets and all of these regulations have an Intentional fudge factor. You never want to have something set up to run at its limits because there are always other variables you can’t control or haven’t accounted for that may make things worse.Yeah, the actual wire should be waaaay below the limit in normal operation. As Rocky_H pointed out somewhere else recently, the rating is based on being inside a wall surrounded with insulation. Also, the maximum allowable temperature when they figure the ampacity is almost certainly 10 or 20 C below the rating of the material, for reasons of conservatism. Also also, the temperature rating is probably the point at which it starts quickly breaking down or outgassing the plasticizer (for some value of "quickly"). But that type of damage continues to happen at lower temperature, just more slowly. So if the wire is going to last 100 years, you need to stay well below the rated temperature.
I'm definitely guessing about that last detail, but that kind of conservatism in general is how you handle requirements that don't have an obvious threshold.
Tesla recommends Hubbell or Bryant. There is also Cooper.Are there any specific 14-50 outlets that are recommended for this installation. I read that the leviton (readily available at homedepot) cannot withstand regular charge for more a couple of months.
There is a really good thread in the Model 3 subforum.Are there any specific 14-50 outlets that are recommended for this installation. I read that the leviton (readily available at homedepot) cannot withstand regular charge for more a couple of months.
Well, that is definitely exaggerating it. I've still been using my Leviton 14-50 outlet for over 7 years. I didn't know about this at the time or would have gotten one of the better outlets.I read that the leviton (readily available at homedepot) cannot withstand regular charge for more a couple of months.
I'm curious as to whether there's any difference at all between the Hubbell and the Bryant, now that they're the same company. It's entirely possible that that extra $40 is paying only for the Hubbell name. Which, that's a lot of money just for the molded brand name.The 14-50 receptacle from Bryant is very similar to the Hubbell but cost less at about $40. If you do decide to get a Hubbell or the Bryant, you have to get the Hubbell cover since the hole size in the Leviton cover is a bit too small.
Zoro is one place to get these. Shipping is $5 (free if a $75 + order).
This looks pretty good, trying to find literature about how it stands up to ev loads. Based on reviews and comments its all about kitchen range.I used this one for my 14-50R outlet going to my Grizzl-E Avalanche Edition. Running happily along at 40AMP/10kW/240V. I used 6/3 Romex through flexible conduit…about 17’.
That’s what most will likely use it for. All I know is I opened it up and it’s pretty solid inside…no monkey business and the attachments are pretty tight and clean. The clamping force on the plug to the EVSE also seem pretty sturdy. The electrician I hired to fish the cable up into the load center inspected it all and he seemed pretty good with it (heck, he asked why I didn’t just finish the whole job before I called him! LOL). I did the whole install from the outlet to the workbox right below the load center…just didn’t want to fish the cable up from there (I hate fishing cable!)This looks pretty good, trying to find literature about how it stands up to ev loads. Based on reviews and comments its all about kitchen range.
Correct me if i am wrong but the ROmex wires cannot be run in conduits? Apparently one must assume your conduits are filled with water at all times so you need something that is wet rated.
Question I wanted to clarify is that all of these can be used for surface mount right. Is there any different in the electrical box to be used for surface mount vs in wall mount.
You can, no prob. Just put it in some conduit! I hate seeing bare Romex staples in the garage!I am thinking about getting this 6/3 wire from Romex at HomeDepot. This would be the wire from a 60amp breaker to the Gen 3 wall charger.
Has anyone installed with this wire for their Tesla and was it a good experience?