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Elon said AP2 will reach parity in December 2016. That never happened.
AP1 uses rule based system and traditional machine learning. So, it can learn fast but only up to a point. AP2 uses deep learning.
If you want you say is true its news for me. I thought Mobileye is traditional Computer Vision based system and not full CNN / DNN. I may be wrong.Any source for this ? Or more info on the distinction between the type of software design used for both?
I was under the impression that both used deep neural networks except that AP1 used Mobileye for visual object recognition (which itself used its own DNN) and Ap2 brought that vision object recognition in house , but it is all DNN, or at least the key parts for both are DNN.
Last informative post mentioning a FW version and some comparsion is from mars, any news here ? - I plan to buy one soon, and I feel confused by the broken promises/delay situation. (depending on who-feels-what)
But of course, paying more top get EAP if there's a endless wait until it catches up.
Last informative post mentioning a FW version and some comparsion is from mars, any news here ? - I plan to buy one soon, and I feel confused by the broken promises/delay situation. (depending on who-feels-what)
But of course, paying more top get EAP if there's a endless wait until it catches up.
Agree. I was behind an AP1 on the 405 this morning. I stayed behind him for about 70 miles. Before exiting the freeway, I noticed that he was on AP. His car was so smooth vs. my AP2. I could especially feel that when the sun hit at it's early morning low altitude. AP2 is literally blinded by the sun.Sorry to bring an old topic back to life, but I just tried AP1 on a long road trip and also AP2. AP1 perform beautifully. AP2 still struggle to change lane and to see other cars on the side. The movement on freeway for AP2 is also more jerky compared to AP1.
I am confident AP2 still need to catch up to AP1.
Agree. I was behind an AP1 on the 405 this morning. I stayed behind him for about 70 miles. Before exiting the freeway, I noticed that he was on AP. His car was so smooth vs. my AP2. I could especially feel that when the sun hit at it's early morning low altitude. AP2 is literally blinded by the sun.
How'd you know they were on AP? It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just wondering what your criteria was for judging that. If I see a Model S/X consistently centered in the lane, as opposed to biased towards the left side of the lane (assuming a LHD car of course), I'd guess they probably have autosteer enabled.
Bruce.
He didn't have the AP2 hardware - cameras on the turn signalHow'd you know they were on AP? It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just wondering what your criteria was for judging that. If I see a Model S/X consistently centered in the lane, as opposed to biased towards the left side of the lane (assuming a LHD car of course), I'd guess they probably have autosteer enabled.
Bruce.
It was pretty evident; I used the lane markings and the tar fillings as references.Not to mention most of the times when AP2 is "not smooth" there is no way you can see that without being a person in the cabin. Small steering adjustments and even jerky steering adjustments / throttle adjustments are not easily visible by following another car (unless they outright slam on the brakes while you're tailgating them)
Starting from a stop is also painfully slow that it leaves a large gap in front before it catches up. I often end up pressing 'gas' to keep the gap as little as possible.