You've stumbled into a conversation in the UK subforum with history. I was replying to a person who thinks Tesla tech is essential, but mention tech that Tesla do not provide and suddenly it doesn't matter as they've driven for years without any. For clarity. I think the advances in safety and driver aids are a great step forward, but they're not unique to Tesla and in some areas the tech other companies provide is better, in other areas the Tesla approach is the best, but rather than dismiss any of it, I think we should push Tesla to develop the capabilities they don't have rather than make excuses for them.