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People have been telling Elon about this for years, but he must be too busy over at X. If the people who are actually working on it can't get it right, then hire smarter people! We should get what we paid for and it shouldn't take a decade to fix. But do you even need auto wipers? We can manually use them in set speeds or on an intermittent setting, why is that so difficult?! Everything doesn't have to always be automatic or we will end up being a lump of flesh sitting on a seat, not knowing how to do anything.
My main problem is when I drove ice cars I could alter the windshield wipers with a flick of the left steering wheel knob. Now I have to look down at the screen to adjust from 1 2 3 or 4-speed. Today I thought I'd take a break driving home and put it on auto I was cruising along at 50 miles an hour in heavy rain and suddenly the wipers just decided to turn off. Now it's a joke when they turn on (which mine do frequently in auto) when it's dry out but it's a extremely dangerous situation when I'm cruising along in heavy rain with wipers that are needed and they stop working and I can't see where the freak I'm going! And then I have to look down or press the steering wheel right button and hope that the car understands my request which it often doesn't. I can't believe they set us up to basically have accidents because they just can't get a simple Auto wiper to work. I've used auto wipers in many ice cars and it was never a freaking problem! Honestly pretty pissed off right now. I'm beginning to regret ever buying this car I feel like I got sold a bill of goods and it's just been one thing after another for the last year
 
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My main problem is when I drove ice cars I could alter the windshield wipers with a flick of the left steering wheel knob. Now I have to look down at the screen to adjust from 1 2 3 or 4-speed. Today I thought I'd take a break driving home and put it on auto I was cruising along at 50 miles an hour in heavy rain and suddenly the wipers just decided to turn off. Now it's a joke when they turn on (which mine do frequently in auto) when it's dry out but it's a extremely dangerous situation when I'm cruising along in heavy rain with wipers that are needed and they stop working and I can't see where the freak I'm going! And then I have to look down or press the steering wheel right button and hope that the car understands my request which it often doesn't. I can't believe they set us up to basically have accidents because they just can't get a simple Auto wiper to work. I've used auto wipers in many ice cars and it was never a freaking problem! Honestly pretty pissed off right now. I'm beginning to regret ever buying this car I feel like I got sold a bill of goods and it's just been one thing after another for the last year
After tapping the windshield wiper button on the left stalk you can use the left steering wheel scroll wheel (push left and right like skipping to the next track on a song) to alter the 1-4 speeds of the windshield wipers. Takes a minute to get used to it, but a very easy way to adjust windshield wiper speed without having to tap the screen.
 
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After tapping the windshield wiper button on the left stalk you can use the left steering wheel scroll wheel (push left and right like skipping to the next track on a song) to alter the 1-4 speeds of the windshield wipers. Takes a minute to get used to it, but a very easy way to adjust windshield wiper speed without having to tap the screen.
Didn't know that. Helpful. Thanks.
 
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Agreed with all the above here. I'm on my 2nd model 3 and the wipers have just gotten worse. Now I find just using I or II setting, or manually tapping the stalk when needed in low rain. When autopilot is on, they're completely random. My old '93 Ranger had the best feature. Analog collar on the right stalk, 1 click in the rotation turned them on, and this was slowest rate: say, 1 wipe every 6-8 sec. Then as you slower turned the collar (clockwise?) the period increased. Max speed prior to next click was about every 2-3 sec. This click was slow, next click, fast. So easy!!! Why not do that? Have a slider on the screen for wipe rate??????? Nobody wants "auto" as it's never what you want. =-D
 
But do you even need auto wipers? We can manually use them in set speeds or on an intermittent setting, why is that so difficult?! Everything doesn't have to always be automatic or we will end up being a lump of flesh sitting on a seat, not knowing how to do anything.
This comment .

No we dont NEED it, but for me, i have had autowipers that just worked in multiple cars in the last 10 years. I am now accustomed to auto wipers, that until i got the Tesla just worked more or less flawlessly.

So no i dont NEED it, but i am used to it and it just works.

If we look at it, there are a lot of "nice to have" features in a car, that we dont NEED, but now that we have them, they are harder to live without.

I also dont NEED automatic climate control, my first car with A/C only had a button and some knobs to manually control the temperature in the car, this worked as well, but today i would not want to not have it being automatic, adjusting itself, but i totally COULD live without it if i had to.
 
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This may only be my opinion, but I'd say the wipers are now good enough on 2024.20.1 for me and maybe even better than the rain sensor wipers on my old P85. They've fixed most of the things that really bugged me on the 2024.8.x and early firmware.

My main complaints were how fast the wipers went on hyper speed to the point where I was getting worried about the paint on my A-pillar and just the fact that it would select hyper speed so frequently when I've never been in a situation where wiping that fast helped visibility. Now it seems that they have slowed down the hyper speed setting to a normal fast setting which is actually a good speed for heavy rain.

I also noticed that it takes more rain before they come on, which is my preference. I prefer having to do an occasional manual wipe vs. the car doing more dry or almost dry wipes.

The only other thing that bugged me was how the wipers would overreact in foggy weather, which I haven't had an opportunity to test yet.
 
Can we agree that it is a soft in the head problem at this point in time?
Yes! Every other car manufacturer has wipers that work. Every other car manufacturer makes stuff work before unleashing it on the customer. There may be some capable people at Tesla, but I have yet to see any software from Tesla that rises to the level of average. It is as if everyone in the corporation is soft in the head. Tesla is "Idiots are Us."
 
The root of this problem is that the correct hardware was eliminated.
That is a symptom of the problem, not the root of the problem. Eliminating the rain sensor is obviously idiotic. The root of the problem is a level of arrogance that permeates the corporation, so that idiocy is not recognized as such. That, and a lack of ethics, results in numerous features that do not work as advertised or that have remarkably substandard ergonomics.

As one whose car tried to kill me (while trying out FSD) I'm sensitive to the ethical sleaziness of promoting a dangerous system as if is a safety feature. I'm an aware, defensive driver, with a better-than average driving record and with healthy skepticism regarding FSD's ability to accomplish full self driving. So my reaction times were good enough to avoid accidents several times by taking over from FSD. But an average, more gullible driver might have been killed.

At least Pay Pal had little potential for killing people.
 
That is a symptom of the problem, not the root of the problem. Eliminating the rain sensor is obviously idiotic. The root of the problem is a level of arrogance that permeates the corporation, so that idiocy is not recognized as such. That, and a lack of ethics, results in numerous features that do not work as advertised or that have remarkably substandard ergonomics.

As one whose car tried to kill me (while trying out FSD) I'm sensitive to the ethical sleaziness of promoting a dangerous system as if is a safety feature. I'm an aware, defensive driver, with a better-than average driving record and with healthy skepticism regarding FSD's ability to accomplish full self driving. So my reaction times were good enough to avoid accidents several times by taking over from FSD. But an average, more gullible driver might have been killed.

At least Pay Pal had little potential for killing people.
Sell your car, your life is not worth driving such a dangerous monstrosity.

Sell it quickly. As soon as possible.