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Totally true, and understandable, but we've got enough "known problems" to complain about without wasting brainpower and stress on what might be coming.Brian,
I think you are starting to see fatigue set in with more and more people or at least more and more forum fanistas.
Elon: Future version of autopilot will take into account stop signs and traffic lights (with existing hardware?)
Daniel Sparks
Pitchforks? What pitchforks?"Who you calling defensive?" Anyway, I'm not defending anything. I just think you're a bit early for the pitchforks. We don't have real data from real firmware in the hands of "normal", real customers yet. You've already declared armageddon.
Elon: Future version of autopilot will take into account stop signs and traffic lights (with existing hardware?)
Daniel Sparks
existing hardware is perfectly capable of that part.That's what I was wondering too. Existing hardware or AP 2.0?
Yeah.... I'm not going to hold me breath on this one!
Totally true, and understandable, but we've got enough "known problems" to complain about without wasting brainpower and stress on what might be coming.
If Tesla's auto steer requires more than just occasional touching of the wheel to maintain auto steer then this is not what I bought, not what was advertised, and I'll demand my money back. Guess we'll find out for sure tomorrow.
I think there's a pretty decent chance today's language was just a CYA.
Assuming the software acts as we've seen in the beta videos, the question then becomes will Tesla continue the CYA language even after they stop referring to the software as beta software. And if they keep the language, do we care if the car actually does what we expected it to do in the first place?
Some might make the argument that if Tesla is now (and by now I mean in the future, when the software is out of beta, and assuming they maintain the CYA language) telling is not to use the feature they way they had marketed it, then they have not delivered what they promised. (A familiar refrain around here lately.) Others might argue that Tesla is only leaving the language in place to appease lawmakers, regulators, etc., and it's really just a wink and a nod to us as owners, since the car really does do what they said it would do.
Should things play out as above, I'm not sure which camp I'd fall into, but I think I'd be leaning towards the latter.
I'm kind of amazed by this characterization, especially in this thread where we've been discussing the leaked power meter design flaws in some detail.Yes, this may seem like pitchforks to people who won't accept anything but excessive, blind praise for whatever they are offered - but especially from you I'm rather surprised about this characterization.
existing hardware is perfectly capable of that part.
There's nothing special needed here. MobileEye 3 can do this with the existing single camera.
considering that's the law in all 50 states, good luck.
It'd be like TACC "hold" mode, it comes to a stop, you as the driver prompt it to keep going.Yes and no. It can detect stop signs and red lights. It doesn't have right and left radars, it wont know what to do at a stop sign and would wait for driver input.