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Autopilot Competitor

Discussion in 'Autonomous Vehicles' started by brantse, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. brantse

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    George Hotz is racing to get an open source autopilot competitor on the market. Comma.ai claims to have packaged the Tesla Autopilot in a $999 aftermarket device

    Very cool stuff. I hope it finally brings us a way to upgrade our classics with AP. The units are supposed to cost $1k + a $24 monthly subscription fee.

    I've always thought that if Geohot and Jason (wk057) teamed up to build a car, they could run Tesla out of business.
     
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    #2 Stoneymonster, Sep 14, 2016
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    I have many thoughts on this, most of them negative but here are some top line ones:

    1. If this comes to market, which is a big if, and there are problems (which there will be, see items below), this will further damage the roll-out of autonomous vehicles.
    2. Integration with arbitrary cars is a huge liability. I'd say possibly insurmountable. Feedback and control systems don't just work wherever they are applied.
    3. Installation and registration (i.e. proper location and aiming) issues will be rampant.
    4. There is no way this can be extensively qualified and tested as it is a third party add on.
    5. George Hotz is a fly-by-the-seat of the pants developer and hacker and I wouldn't trust his code to run my toaster.
     
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    I wonder if I install the aftermarket unit in my Tesla if I can actually get the features Elon promised nearly 2 years ago...
     
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  4. Stoneymonster

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    Probably not, but at least you'll have two companies to be annoyed with ;)
     
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    Agreed Stoney.
    I think most people would not want to pay $1000.00 plus $24.00 per month to have any Warranty on their vehicle Nullified.
    Can anyone else hear the insurance adjuster on the phone saying: " your claim has been denied" . ?
    Ask an uber driver about that...
    I like Hotz, but, he should have chosen to work WITH Musk, IMO . .
     
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    I'm not paying monthly for that crap...
     
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    Did that guy get presentation-training from Steve Ballmer?? Holy jesus...
     
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    Watching that guy give his "presentation" and thinking that he is building something to potentially drive a car for people.....I hope that product never makes it to anywhere near me!!
     
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    How is it retrofitted on cars without electric steering?
     
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    It isn't. In fact it isn't even retrofitted on cars that don't have their own radar unit.
    It currently is available for retrofit on exactly one model of car, with a "maybe" on a few others.
     
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    Which one exactly?
     
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    Acura ILX 2016/2017 with Lane Keeping Assist System
    The "maybe" cars are "All Honda and Acura with Lane Keeping Assist System"
     

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