And it is not easy, if all possible, to find this information using Google. Imagine Tesla had this problem, googling Tesla would return endless pages proclaiming that Tesla is dead now.
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Car & Driver: The Mach E is simply better than the Model Y
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Following up on search for Mach-E Norway, I found this:
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Måtte signere kontrakt på ikke å krysse Norges grenser for å få sin nye bil.
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Also, did Ford restarted UK deliveries that they stopped a month ago due to safety reasons?
FOOLSLFDRVNG
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In case you think you’re having a bad day with your Y.
They have to have some electro-mechanical way to dissipate unwanted energy. If software fails to control it properly, it might be fixable over the OTA or software update in general, but if it is a hardware engineering design flaw, then the Mach-E is basically screwed big time. This same issue started to be reported by US owners of the Mach-E too. So it is NOT an issue of "a very small number of vehicles" as Ford tries to sell to the Norwegian press.
Here:
Going downhill- car won’t start
Soooo, I went up mount Washington, NH with 60%charge. Going downhill I put it on low gear (L) with one pedal drive on. The car *sugar* down giving me all sorts of errors that we all heard of. I managed to turn it back on 5 minutes later using Ford pass app. I’m almost 75% down and it did it...
www.macheforum.com
Sure thing... a simply better car than the Model Y... ha ... ha ... ha .....
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CyberGus
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Maybe they just need to install the "Nikola Downhill Package"
Since it uses regen first when braking according to what I read over there, maybe it's just a matter of them backing off on regen in favor of the disc brakes. That's assuming they can easily accomplish that if it's their 'fix'.They have to have some electro-mechanical way to dissipate unwanted energy. If software fails to control it properly, it might be fixable over the OTA or software update in general, but if it is a hardware engineering design flaw, then the Mach-E is basically screwed big time. This same issue started to be reported by US owners of the Mach-E too. So it is NOT an issue of "a very small number of vehicles" as Ford tries to sell to the Norwegian press.
That's what I thought... but they need to have enough sensors to control temperature of the coolant, batteries, etc. to accurately manage the load. If they simply reduce energy recuperation then they will lose range, and they might be losing the range even driving on a flat road. It will be interesting to see how their software fix will affect the range ....
but wait... the Mach-E does not show its rated range! ... what?
Maybe over the next ten years a CCS network will be on par with Tesla’s network. That’s basically the life of a car. I will get a Tesla for now, and unless something drastically changes I will probably get a Tesla later.
Interior design is so subjective that it is impossible to say one is better than the other, what what I will say is once Tesla put a huge screen in their cars, the legacy automakers soon followed.
Personally I love the model y interior and wouldn’t change anything about, but it’s just an opinion.
Objectively, the Tesla has better tech, verified by Munro. The Tesla has better range, the Tesla has a better charging network.
Your point is “but not for long”, that’s fine, been hearing that for a while.....
Oooof, finally got around reading this review.
I've had CoPilot360+ on a rental Ford Edge for +5000mi and have a 2017 Model X with FSD
- Adaptive cruise control works fine, up until you end up in a traffic jam. Twice, the Edge forgot there was a car ahead and started to accelerate. Smooth sailing with Tesla's Autopilot.
- Tesla allows 15" nowadays in Europe. Ford Edge wasn't having any of it, you always needed hands on the wheel. And the torque sensor started to always require pressure applied to it, so once you released the wheel, the car would swerve because the pressure on the wheel was gone.
- Autopilot NoA is nice. Not perfect, but nice.
- Lane keeping in the CoPilot360 is good as long as the road goes reasonably straight. Any slight bends and the system gives up. An interruption in the road markings, and the system gives up. It doesn't even notify you if it gives up, you just keep going straight while the road curves.
- Ford doesn't have any lane changing, but indeed you don't get the double Tesla ding dong when pulling through autopilot, and reactivating autopilot in the other line, if NoA doesn't work as desired. But sometimes, because of the tiny display in the Edge, you had no clue if CoPilot360+ had reengaged.
- True on the Ford 360º view and traffic awareness
- I'm curious how Blue Cruise will hold up. In effect, it's the same promise as GM'S SuperCruise, including only available on selected, premapped highways. Compare that to Tesla's Autopilot that doesn't have those limits. It's a bit like the best camera is the one you have with you: what good is the best (promised) autonomous lane keeping system if you can only use it on selected roads?
I think Ford has solved the problem with going done hills.
SSM 69420 - Mach-E bricks after going downhill.
Some 2021 Mustang Mach-E vehicles may experience a dead vehicle after going down a hill.
Fix
Please have the customers avoid hills. In car navigation will be updated to address this concern and hills will no longer be able to plan routes on.
END SSM
SSM 69420 - Mach-E bricks after going downhill.
Some 2021 Mustang Mach-E vehicles may experience a dead vehicle after going down a hill.
Fix
Please have the customers avoid hills. In car navigation will be updated to address this concern and hills will no longer be able to plan routes on.
END SSM
These problems are all so absurd. I always think the legacy OEMs know what they're doing and then stuff like this stuff comes out.
How did Ford not catch this during testing? Did they know and release it hoping they'd come up with a fix?
I go up and down mountains all the time so I regen a lot. I'm glad I'm not dealing with this in the MY.
How did Ford not catch this during testing? Did they know and release it hoping they'd come up with a fix?
I go up and down mountains all the time so I regen a lot. I'm glad I'm not dealing with this in the MY.
I have 19 M3 and it has a battery that had no newer mechanical expansion compensators ... so on long downhills when the battery is actively charging I hear loud booms of the heat-induced battery expansion (Tesla can, but doesn't want to fix it despite they have a TSB on it). Anyway, these loud pops are exactly the same as when the car is supercharging. Now I wonder if some charging problems of the Mach-E and its inability to fast charge above 80% have the same root cause as the downhill regeneration problem. If true, the Mach-E may become a remarkable screw up in Ford's history.
So things of your personal preference and your taste for design makes it a better car. Otherwise industry wide its basically been proven that while the Mach E is a great first entry into the marketplace, its pretty much subpar to the Model Y in every way other than the size of the battery pack (which hasn't really been proven in terms of degradation or reliability since its been under a year).
To my other post, you are a troll. You are relying on articles, and posting articles that have a clear slant and constantly ignore posts that challenge you with pretty shallow responses save for a few. You align the Mach-E right with the Y.
I read your post and got a mach e test car, drove around Sacramento and only got 1 of 4 EA chargers to successfully charge the car. At multiple locations I tried 2+ stations to get it to go. So again, EA and the Mach E are no where close in my experience. If i'm taking a trip with my wife, toddler and dogs going to a charger for 10-15 minutes to get my car from 30-80 on a V3 is already a stretch. Can you imagine being stuck with a Mach-E and having to juggle my text experience in a real world scenario?
Again I like the Mach-E, I would've considered one if the issues arising were less, and if there was anything resembling a reliable charging infrastructure. The extra 6-8KW in the pack mean nothing to me if I have to hunt for a working charger. I hope you enjoy your car, but it's not tribalism you're finding here. Its sensibility from a customer base who has a solid understanding of EV's. Most here are open and excited about new EV's. You're finding friction because of how you post and your inability to form a good sensible argument other than personal taste.
I get the same popping in my 20 MY when I'm driving up mountains. The first time I thought I kicked-up a rock and checked for damage after I got to the top.
It's summer and my battery still gets cold enough from regening that I lose max power after long descents.
Hopefully Ford's battery problem isn't as bad as GM's problems with their Bolt. That seems to get worse as time goes by.
It's summer and my battery still gets cold enough from regening that I lose max power after long descents.
Hopefully Ford's battery problem isn't as bad as GM's problems with their Bolt. That seems to get worse as time goes by.
This used to happen in my M3 driving over 17 between San Jose and Santa Cruz. They looked it over multiple times and basically landed on the conclusion that the battery was heating up and causing pops on the sheet metal. From my understanding there is no long term damage or anything from it. However I believe they've started addressing it in production now.
stopcrazypp
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Did you point them to the TSB? According to it, if you bring it to their attention, they are supposed to fix it. Or was this before the TSB was out?
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2019/MC-10163736-9999.pdf
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