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Not sure that's true - there are very few Model S out there charging, but plenty of reports from Leaf drivers of the chargers shutting down due to overheating.
TonyWilliams
Active Member
Yep. Plenty of overheating Nissan Quick Charger - CHAdeMO DC Fast Charging for Electric Vehicles, and elsewhere in the US, usually (always?0 due to air filters that haven't been cleaned.
I don't have a lot of experience with CHAdeMO, but have read of about a dozen incidences of charges not starting or ending prematurely due overheating. Never smoke or fire though.
Huh. Reminds me of something an ex-boss of mine used to say, "If you don't test it, it doesn't work."
With each country having different electricity supply grid characteristics and its own regulatory processes, I can imagine he performance and bureaucracy nightmare which Tesla is having.
this is an area where I wish they would share more: after all, it isn't really a competitive issue to have the status public.
I talked to a representative of ABB Germany and asked "What if a Model S will charge for 2 hours with full power". ABB told me, their Terra 53 charger is designed to operate 24/7 with specified output power of 50kW. They don't see any problems with charging a Model S.There are more horrible chademo's than good ones. The best I saw so far are the ABB units which look most professional, have a USEFUL display (most the other are unreadable in daylight) and seem to work without issues. Made in northern Europe, no wonder
Re ABB thanks for good info! Unfortunately I haven't seen them here...
BTW Tesla called me today that they will have "firmware update" for the adapter to eliminate CHAdeMO communication errors. It seems to be a replacement of adapter but it's not ready yet.
BTW Tesla called me today that they will have "firmware update" for the adapter to eliminate CHAdeMO communication errors. It seems to be a replacement of adapter but it's not ready yet.
Cottonwood
Roadster#433, Model S#S37
Same in the Netherlands. All ABB chargers. For example those from Fastned / Snelladen langs de snelweg
A Terra 53 50kW multi standard will set you back somewhere between EUR 30.000,00 and 40.000,00. So let's say $50,000
ABB Electric Vehicle Charging Infrastructure
Seeing the three standard ABB units in use in Europe makes me wonder if we'll see ones with three connectors in North America, except replacing the 43 kW AC with Tesla. Thanks to the opening of Tesla's patents, wouldn't this be allowed?
Currently, dual CHAdeMO/CCS stations are being installed in my province. However, there are only 50 or so CCS ready cars on the road here and almost none in dealer inventories, compared to over 300 Model S. Imagine by how much Teslas will outnumber CCS cars once Model 3 is released. There are also wide gaps in Supercharger coverage, so Tesla drivers would love to have access to 50kW.
I've heard the argument that Model S drivers should simply purchase the adaptor, but the many disadvantages to that are listed in this thread. Besides, what will happen if BMW and Nissan migrate to Tesla's design? Will everyone have to use an adaptor if they want a quick charge?
FairFrank
Member
TM has recruited some beta-testers in EU and shipped CHAdeMO beta-adaptors to them. European drivers just have to wait for the results and possible modifications.
Although the SuC network is expanding steadily, one can expect CHAdeMO chargers will remain playing a major role. Travelling from SuC to SuC is fine, keeping the driving range window wide open with frequent and short CHAdeMO topping remains key for drivers without an overnight private 11/22kW AC option.
Hodginator
Member
wow, that's cheap! In Japan Toyota/Nissan/Mitsubishi sells simple 3kW EVSE (AC 100V/200V) at $800!
Wow, that's great because its much less than it was, but also because it means they are possibly close enough to an actual release that they are adjusting the price? or is it just another website snafu?
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