Yeah, everyone gets a free pass as long as they survive. So, the mystery continues about why Elon has butt-hurt.
I immediately assumed he must have another relationship problem FWIW.
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Yeah, everyone gets a free pass as long as they survive. So, the mystery continues about why Elon has butt-hurt.
No argument from me.Use of an oximeter can way too easily fall into the trump trap: by the time a problem is recognized the horse is out of the barn, across the river, and heading for the horizon.
Just like Y2K. People forget that it was no big deal because of all the effort to limit the risk.
But Y2K was not a disease that could have a second or third wave.
There is an interesting video of how things spread in a commercial airplane passenger cabin making the rounds. Seems to me distance is your friend but 6’ seems mostly like a starting point. Testing And tracing is going to help add some light as I see it.
I don't think companies would be worries about costs at this point. Risk is well worth it if you can sell a billion doses to all the governments.
Every company in the world is going to have raw, hot, sunbaked garbage for q2 financials...
Something like this from Purdue school of engineering, YMMV.
To be blunt and at risk of error, I do have some perspective:
Tesla should also get everyone regularly tested.
If you can't test/trace 10k people, you can never test/trace 300 Million.
The vast majority of Americans are sitting at home watching CNN all day. News has an interest in keeping fear to a maximumElon Musk Calls Coronavirus Shelter-In-Place Orders “Fascist” As He Demands To Reopen The US
Full Elon quotes from today.
What an out of touch clown. The vast majority of Americans are not comfortable going our yet. Polling for a lockdown remains very high. This idea that people are foaming at the mouth to return to work is so dumb
Goal is to get to China’s numbers? Anyone who thinks China is being remotely honest with their numbers is a fool.Yeah, the goal is to get to South Korea or Australia or New Zealand (or even China).
we already had a test case last month. It’s called giga Shanghai. It workedMerc has reopened the Alabama plant with 4K workers. Temp checking, social distancing etc. it will be a good test case.
Basing a hypothesis only on a "cui bono" argument without any other compelling evidence is the hallmark of a conspiracy theory.News has an interest in keeping fear to a maximum
Possible yes, but the fly in the ointment is that these case were deemed 'recovered' by testing RNA negative, and then perhaps more importantly retested positive when they developed new symptoms. The most benign conjecture would be a false negative test in the middle, and later symptoms unrelated to Covid.
we already had a test case last month. It’s called giga Shanghai. It worked
Anyone who thinks China is being remotely honest with their numbers is a fool.
@jbcariocaTo be blunt and at risk of error, I do have some perspective:
First, we know with certainty that some jurisdictions in various countries do manipulate data. Here are some from this morning only;
Miami Herald reported today that FL Medical Examiners were now prohibited from releasing data after their aggregate death counts were 10% higher than State reports;
O Globo reported this morning that some favelas (slums)in three States SP, RJ, MG are now sometimes unable to get removal of corpses because of lack of morgue capacity. None have been hospitalized or treated so are uncounted as cases or deaths;
New York Times this morning reported that CDC data shows "total deaths in seven States that have been hard hit...are nearly 50% higher than normal for the five weeks from march 8 through April 11...";
I did not link any of those because they are being reported widely and copious corroboration is easily findable. if I need to I can post the links. There are others, including not counting nursing home fatalities, finding corpses in trailers when neighbors complained about the bad smells, abandoned nursing home in IIRC Madrid.
We need no conspiracy theories nor even analytics to know there is massive excess mortality right now in many places. How do we know? Funeral homes, morgues and cemeteries are overwhelmed in many places in many countries. Use only that single metric, corpse processing backlogs, and it becomes evident that systematic undercounting is happening.
Again, no conspiracy is needed. Much of the probable undercounting is due to people undiagnosed up to and including death. Much also is certainly due to uninfected people with acute diseases that are untreated due to COVID-19 overload, such as heart failure.
Where ever we are in the world we need to be very concerned. If this catastrophe teaches us anything it is that few countries are well prepared for novel health risk. Taiwan, stands alone as a stellar example despite its [formal] exclusion from WHO and most international organisations. Others from Singapore to Germany to Canada, New Zealand and Finland, have managed to devise practical solutions. Those have varied greatly in tactics and strategy, with Singapore as the stellar example of a society that exists and thrives due to global commerce using huge proportions fo imported labor.
All the good examples share exhaustive data, some obsessively so. All track cases and map individual cases physical movements, seeking testing of people who may have been exposed. Each has strong health systems with a generous supply of emergency services including ICU's at the ready to activation if needed. Each was fast and efficient in establishing testing and PPE.
Of the major countries with the worst case results there is little surprise. Each has major political and social difference with consequential lack of central government social control. Oddly all but one of them have national health systems. Every one have major political differences. Linguistic diversity might be a factor, but each of the best examples is multi-lingual.
Net, none of these total infection estimates are particularly credible IMHO. The inescapable obvious reason to be very worried is the lack of preparedness and quick professional response.
The candidates for my personal avoidance list are some fo my favorite places and a couple less so: more or less in order:
UK, US, Spain, Italy, France. Notably each fo them has very large socially and economically disenfranchised residents, coupled with acute political disarray including demonization of minorities.
Some of that is shared in some fo the best examples, but not all of it, and all the good examples still provide good health care for their 'detested classes'.
From my perspective COVID-19 is not in itself catastrophic. It is with no doubt 'a canary in a coal mine'.
They track by date of infection, so you need a 3-4 week lag. A 24 day lag gives an IFR a bit above 1.1% in the US. They have CA just above 1% and NY about 1.3%.* Note that you can see on their website that it is just under 1% (take total deaths and divide by cases about two weeks earlier). Seems reasonable.
You almost never hear about test&trace being a great tool for learning how the virus spreads. Airborne vs. contact, inside vs. outside, etc. We're opening and closing stuff randomly. Do fitness centers spread 10000x more virus than parks and beaches? We have no clue because we have no effective test&trace. An app would generate all kinds of great data, of course. But no.....There is an interesting video of how things spread in a commercial airplane passenger cabin making the rounds. Seems to me distance is your friend but 6’ seems mostly like a starting point. Testing And tracing is going to help add some light as I see it.